Sunday, July 16, 2017

Ah, They Lie At Eschaton And The Ones Who Don't Lie Don't Care About It

Oh, dear.  I'm told Simps is making with the libel over at Duncan's den for the louche liars again and this time Freki is getting in on the act.  That Brit liar is claiming I advocated the killing of British children when anyone who has ever read me will know that one of my major topics includes criticizing the depravity of Darwin, Malthus, Carlyle, such others as Karl Pearson, etc. included the attacks they made on the British poor, especially the poor children who, her great hero, Charles Darwin, complained were allowed to live to adulthood.  He not only complained that they might, somehow in the depraved British system get adequate food in order to grow up in health, he complained that the criminality of the poorhouses, which starved inmates, especially, children to death on rations designed to starve them kept some of them alive.  I also criticized the enslavement of the children of the British poor as part of the New Poor Law Darwin complained kept too many British children alive. even under rules that included incentives for their enslavers to starve them or to work them to death because they were paid to take even more children from their parents under the law.  Her hero, Darwin explicitly complained such children were kept alive in too great numbers under such British institutions.  Darwin also explicitly complained that smallpox vaccination kept too many British children alive (a position his son, Leonard, featured in his unsuccessful run for Parliament).  Karl Pearson complained because such medical care as cesarean section kept children (and presumably their mothers) alive who would have died if a natural birth had failed.   

The first and most immediate victims of Darwinist depravity were the British poor, they were victimized by the Malthusianism that Darwin imposed on nature even before he got started doing that.  As well as the Irish who were also subjected to the same depraved death camp system under British imperial rule, and more. (Apropos of yesterday's play, Brendan Behan was absolutely delighted when, after he first appeared on a Brit broadcast, a Cockney told him that he understood every word Behan said but he couldn't understand the toff who interviewed him.  The Irish have more in common with the British poor than they do those who oppressed both groups.)

I have criticized the British Fabians, other than Karl Pearson, for their depraved policies which, in some of their celebrity members, such as George Bernard Shaw, advocated the murder of British people (and others) in gas chambers decades before the Nazis adopted such ideas.  

So, Freki is lying, as always.  Atheists don't feel any hesitation to lie if they figure they can get away with it because they don't believe in sin so they don't figure it's a sin to tell a lie. 

I'm surprised DAS didn't refute Simels' lie about me being an anti semite because he knows very well I'm not.  I don't know if he still reads me but he certainly used to at my first blog.  I used to read his blog which was quite fascinating and a constant surprise at the complexity of Rabbinic Judaism.  Wish he still wrote it.  Under his influence I'd contemplated attending the Masorti synagogue two towns over.  Unfortunately at the time I didn't like the Rabbi.  The newer one is very nice.  Very nice, indeed - if I were about thirty years younger...  I settled for studying the Hebrew Scriptures more intensively and have discovered that they are about the greatest and most complex of any scriptures and that the Christian tradition makes no sense except as understood through them.  Christianity is Judaism for gentiles. 

As I've mentioned over and over again, Simels definition of anti semitism means that someone who wishes that there were more Jews living in his country as full citizens, enjoying the full range of rights he does, or even that the United States had donated land for an independent Jewish Homeland which almost certainly would have been safe and secure and democratic and flourishing instead of merely existing in a condition of permanent warfare since the day it was founded.   Simels, for some reason, doesn't seem to want to have more Jews living in the United States or a Jewish homeland where Jews can live in a state of peace.  Apparently he likes the idea that they will play the same role in the depraved vision of Armageddon that the pseudo-Christian psychopaths favor.  

If the Supreme Court had not made that 1996 ruling protecting website owners from the libels their commentators posted I would certainly consider suing Duncan Black who has hosted lies like that for the past five years.  He has allowed all kinds of lies to be repeated on his blog, he doesn't seem to care that it is used for that, he barely cares that they don't read what he wrote.  It's a cash cow for the formerly promising young, now aging and unpromising blogger.  He doesn't care about its contents much. 

25 comments:

  1. You advocated moving the Jews of Israel to Jan Brewer's Arizona, where you claimed they'd be welcome. Which is a) nonsense on the face of it and b) deeply offensive to anybody who understands why the creation of the state of Israel was a historical imperative. Not to mention about as condescending to my fellow Red Sea Pedestrians as it is possible to be.

    Please to now be shutting your anti-Semitic pie hole.

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    1. Simps, I don't know if you're so stupid you can't understand things or if you're just addicted to lying.

      I never advocated "moving the Jews of Israel to Jan Bewer's Arizona" I mentioned that a Jewish Homeland on land donated by the United States, one carved out of some place in the South West, the North West or, dopey, my own state of Maine would probably live in peace instead of the constant warfare that so many Jews such as Hannah Arendt and Albert Einstein predicted would result from taking land from the Palestinians.

      I do find it rather funny that you figure Jan Brewer owns Arizona. There are lots of Jews who live in Arizona and around the South West. You ever hear of Gabby Giffords?

      One of the biggest objections to the creation of Israel in Palestine was that it would be constantly at war with its neighbors and the Palestinians who were displaced, it would be constantly under attack and some pointed out that putting large numbers of Jews in one place would make it easier to kill lots of Jews, something that had just been experienced in Europe - not in Palestine.

      Your definition of anti semitism is essentially the same as that of Norman Podhoretz, Midge Decter, and the rest of the neo-cons, meaning anyone who won't lie about the nature of Israel and the obvious and ongoing mistake that Howard Zinn said it was. I'd rather be on the side of Howard Zinn, Noam Chomsky and the other realists than the liars, like you.

      Have you ever been to Israel? I mean, you're always bragging about your travels, have you ever even put your flabby ass in enough danger to be a tourist there? My parents went, they loved it, though they were pretty disturbed by the spectacle of the demolition of a Palestinian home.

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    2. "the creation of the state of Israel was a historical imperative"

      I challenge you to explain what you mean by that.

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    3. Something to do with the fact that six million of my co-religionists were killed in a Holocaust you continue to claim was caused by Charles Darwin and nobody -- including the United Fucking States of America -- bothered to do anything about it until it was too late.

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    4. They weren't killed by Palestinians, they were killed by Nazis. And if that's the criterion, there were lots of genocides in the past century and longer. If that's the case, many more Native Americans were murdered so you should start thinking about getting your ass off of North America.

      The Nazis took their ideas about killing people directly from Darwin as I showed in my article about that Nazi propaganda film, Das Erbe, in which every example they use to justify their eugenics program and racial supremacy was drawn directly from Darwin's writings. You're too stupid to be able to understand that.

      As to your claim that the United States "did nothing" I would remind you that the racial and ethnic restrictions on immigration were a direct result of Darwinism and the claims of natural selection. That is I would remind you of that but you are ineducable, no amount of proof will get you to change what you believe in your ignorance. Those things happened in history and it is a fact that the entire thing was a development of Darwinism. As reliable an expert on the thinking of Charles Darwin as his own son said that in April of 1939. You, of course, figure you know more about what ol' Chuck thought than his own son.

      So, why don't you leave this antisemitic hell hole and plant your ass on Israel? I mean, if it's been so bad for you and you're such a super supporter of Israel? Or are you one of those guys who figures everyone else should go there while you stay here in this hell hole.

      And, why haven't you been there instead of Paris or Stockholm?

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  2. "Oh, dear. I'm told Simps is making with the libel over at Duncan's"

    No, you weren't told. You lurk over there and lie about it.

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  3. Have you ever been Bar Mitzvahed?

    No? Then shut the fuck up.

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  4. "I never advocated "moving the Jews of Israel to Jan Bewer's Arizona" I mentioned that a Jewish Homeland on land donated by the United States, one carved out of some place in the South West, the North West or, dopey, my own state of Maine would probably live in peace "



    Let's go to Vegas and see what kind of odds we can get for any of that happening. Particularly the part about living in peace.

    Now please to be shutting your anti-semitic pie hole.

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  5. " do find it rather funny that you figure Jan Brewer owns Arizona. There are lots of Jews who live in Arizona and around the South West. You ever hear of Gabby Giffords? "

    Right. Gabby Giffords did so well there. Apart from being shot by a rightwing anti-semite asshole.

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    1. You should go look up the incident, the Anti-Defamation League studied Jared Loughner and his online rants and concluded he wasn't anti semitic, they concluded he was anti-government. Some of his friends said as he became more insane he became convinced that women shouldn't hold positions of power in the government. He was a nut case.

      You, of course, never bothered to look at the facts, you just pulled them out of the hole you dwell in and think with. Given the level of genuine antisemitic attacks in the states you live in and hang around in, many times more than in Arizona, I'm surprised you still live there. New York and New Jersey are in the top three states for such acts.

      If you're worried about anti semitic attacks, Arizona is one of the states that report the lowest incidence of such attacks.

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    2. Of course, import the Jewish population of Israel into the cactus-ridden wingnut hellhole that is Arizona and anti-semitic attacks definitely wouldn't go up.

      Nah, never.

      Seriously, Sparky -- you need to just shut your anti-semitic pie hole. You're looking more and more foolish with every post on this thread.

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    3. I suspect if several million Jews moved to Arizona it would become a liberal bastion.

      You know how funny it is for you to figure that Jews can't live in a desert? Do you imagine Israel is covered with northern boreal forests? I mean, I'm prepared to believe you're that ignorant, after all you are about everything else.

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    4. "I suspect if several million Jews moved to Arizona it would become a liberal bastion."

      And I suspect that if several million Jews moved to Breitbart News it wouldn't.

      Your move.

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    5. "I suspect if several million Jews moved to Arizona it would become a liberal bastion."

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    6. In probably the only time I will ever link to the putrid thing, there is this:

      A lot of people don’t realize this but Breitbart News Network really got its start in Jerusalem. It was the summer of 2007, and Andrew had been invited to tour Israel as part of a media junket. I agreed to tag along as his lawyer and best friend. What neither of us knew at the time was that the trip would change our lives and give us the inspiration for Breitbart News Network.

      http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/11/17/breitbart-news-network-born-in-the-usa-conceived-in-israel/

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    7. I guess I have more faith in the intelligence and good will of Jews than you do, Simps. I don't judge an entire group by one asshole like you.

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  6. I just decided to let people see for themselves what a lying crack pot you are.

    I find it hilarious that you figure an asshole like you can get me to shut my "pie hole".

    As to what DAS said, If you and the likes of Freki never mentioned me again, I can guarantee him that I would never, ever mention you or Duncan or the wreck of a blog he milks, ever again. I never talk about the other blogs I used to frequent but gave up as a boring and futile waste of time, after all.

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  7. So Gabby Giffords did well in Arizona?

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    1. Well, unless you figure getting elected to Congress is an act of hostility, I'd think so.

      I wonder if she and her family have fled the state.

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  8. That whole being shot by a wingnut anti-semite was a positive thing then?

    Good fucking grief.

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    1. So, you figure Super Simels knows more about that than the Anti-Defamation League do. Why am I unsurprised?

      So far as I can tell, Gabby Giffords still lives in Arizona, as do her family, her children, etc. You figure you know more about what she should be doing than she does? Apparently the rest of the members of her Reform congregation, Congregation Chaverim in Tucson don't feel inclined to flee, either.

      Or didn't you know there were Jews living in Arizona?

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  9. No comments from Freki?

    What a pity. No, then again: not.

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    1. I'd say she's a cowardly liar but I think it's more that she's smart enough to remember that I've kicked her ass any number of times. Simps is too stupid to remember that.

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  10. She came to my blog once, made a completely out of left field comment, which left another regular at my blog thinking it must have been smoke from some kind of fire (the same experience I had as a pastor, with people telling stories about me that had no basis in reality). So, as I say, just as well.

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    1. She's told some incredible whoppers about me over at Duncan's, even before I stopped frequenting it. I do think that she might have been the one who convinced me that there really is a moral consequence to not believing in sin. It certainly doesn't enhance the chances that the truth will matter to such a person.

      She also hates me because I'm Irish. She's a Brit relocated to Canada, which is too bad for Canada. I've encountered her type lots of time, you can take the toff out of Britland but you can't get the toffee out of their nose. I suspect with her it's just the kind of pose the upper class lords it over on others with, there's not much more to her than that.

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