To pretend that the Nazis' only or even first group of people on their list of those to be entirely slaughtered were the Jews is to distort the history of the Third Reich.
Leaving out ANY of the groups of people whose murder the Nazis held as policy is a revisionist history of the Third Reich. Including gay men.
Your "definitive" historian of the Third Reich obviously and deliberately DID leave out gay men from his telling of the Rise and Fall of The Third Reich so it can't possibly be "a definitive" work on that period of history and those events.
I've been through this before with people like you. Your practice of assigning value to different people based on which groups they belong to is, definitively, the kind of thinking the Nazis engaged in. I won't do that, I won't think like a Nazi does.
Update: YES! I do mean that Jews who hold that only the murders of Jews by the Nazis is significant or that it has some kind of special significance ARE thinking exactly as the Nazis did, assigning value to human beings on the basis of group identity. Anyone who practices that is thinking like a Nazi. Before the infamous Wansee Conference the Nazis had put into place policies of murdering all of the disabled, Hitler had given orders to his officers to kill all of the Polish people, he did that on the eve of the invasion of Poland in 1939. You can't hold that one of the groups the Nazis tried to exterminate is more significant than the others without inviting members of those demoted groups to practice the same thing and it's all Nazi style thinking, based in their understanding of natural selection.
Update2: Ah, Duncan's douchebags won't read the whole thing so I don't care what they say about the pieces clipped out of it. Anyone who puts higher and lower values on people on the basis of their identity IS thinking exactly how the Nazis thought. And, wouldn't you know it, just as they did, their group is more valued than some others.
Duncan's remnant rump aren't especially bright or good at finding out what they're talking about. They don't even read what he wrote so he stopped writing.
They don't get any smarter, do they?
ReplyDeleteAdding: arguing over who was the most slaughtered by the Nazis is a pretty sick thing to take enough pride in to defend "your" position as "No. 1!"
ReplyDeleteWhich is not to disagree with your point; Shirer's history is a history; it is not the only history, and it is not the most complete history.
ReplyDelete"To pretend that the Nazis' only or
even first group of people on their list of those to be entirely
slaughtered were the Jews is to distort the history of the Third Reich."
The Nazis called it "The Final Solution to the Jewish Problem". I'm surprised you don't know that -- it was in all the papers.
You're right, so Jews win the prize.
ReplyDeleteYou should be so proud (it's already clear the point cleared your head by several feet).
You obviously get some kind of sick thrill denying the centrality of centuries of European Christian Anti-Semitism to the Holocaust. I wonder why that is.
ReplyDelete:-)
Simels, if you're going to troll my blog, do it as yourself, then I'll know who not to answer.
ReplyDeleteWhat makes me think you read Berlin Diary a assigned in some class way back when, way way back, and you've read little to nothing else.
The Nazis had a long list of people to murder and when they added people to a list, they didn't mean they were going to just kill some of them.
Oh, and, yeah, you do think just like a Nazi thinks.
ReplyDeleteI'll say it again, slowly, so you understand.
ReplyDeleteYou obviously get some kind of sick thrill denying the centrality of the Jews and centuries of European anti-semitism to the Holocaust. Seek help.
BTW, since according to you all rights come from God, and since God gave Israel the right to exist...
ReplyDeleteIn Genesis 12:1-3, the Lord says to Abraham, “Go from your country and your kindred and your father's house to the land that I will show you. And I will make of you a great nation, and I will bless you and make your name great, so that you will be a blessing. I will bless those who bless you, and him who dishonors you I will curse, and in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed.”
...why do you continue to deny Israel's right to exist?
"You should be so proud (it's already clear the point cleared your head by several feet)."
ReplyDeleteYou want to know why theologians don't run our government? Because of cluelessness like the above.