"Maine is Missisippi (sic)north"
Um, well, if you overlook such things as it being the first state to vote in marriage equality AT THE BALLOT BOX, having one of its two members of the House being Chellie Pingree who is among the most liberal members of Congress, things like that, well, not really. Idiots from places like New York City who have only the vaguest sense of what life outside of their center of their universe is really like might know that we are suffering under a Republican-fascist governor, who was elected with the decisive help of a millionaire who ran vanity independent candidacies, splitting the opposition and so was elected without a majority of the votes in either election but they don't know much else.
Considering some of the politicians they have contributed, scummy, slimy guys like Rudy Giuliani, Ed Koch and lest anyone forget, Donald Trump, not to mention being the home of so much of the media that has enabled, no, encouraged American fascism to take hold, you can soak your head.
Update: LePage hasn't gotten the majority of votes in either of the state elections he's won. He would never have won without the help of the millionaire spoiler, but that's what happens when some dopey liberals put in laws making it easy for such guys to run. It seemed like such a liberal idea at the time. Unfortunately, like so many of those ideas, it turned out to enable fascists. And for a state such as yours that has elected the likes of George Pataki, who won three times with the backing of lots of NYC big shots like your illustrious Senator Al D'Amato, winning over Mario Cuomo in his first run, you can go soak your head, again.
Oh, and, among other things I could add, Maine abolished the death penalty in the 19th century and has not reinstated it. Even when LePage had Republicans in control of the legislature, he couldn't do that.
Update 2: I don't care what the non-readers of Tiger Beat on the Delaware might appear to themselves to think about anything. I can't imagine any of them were honors students given their non-reading habits and indifference to documentation.
Update 3: Wow, you really didn't get the point about the death penalty and you live there. It was one of George Pataki's big selling points with the people of New York State, reinstating the death penalty, it was one of his most important issues used against Mario Cuomo AND HE DID GET THE LEGISLATURE TO REINSTATE IT. Fortunately, they did so in a form which the state courts later found to be unconstitutional but it wasn't because the majority of New Yorkers were opposed to reinstating it.
It is so funny that a guy from the backwoods of Maine would seem to know more about your recent elections than you do. No wonder you figure my state is defined by that one thing, you don't even know what's going on where you live.
Trump has never held office in New York, where he's considered a buffoon, and he's going to lose the state overwhelmingly in November.
ReplyDeleteYou yokels elected LePage twice. Sorry.
Get back to me when you manage to impeach LePage.
ReplyDeleteCompared to LePage, Pataki was Jesus.
ReplyDeleteWe were comparing states, Pataki was a lot more successful in imposing his regressive program than LePage has been and he was hardly the only disaster as governor of New York. Rockefeller's drug policy, his dumping the mentally ill onto the street, etc. were new depths of irresponsibility that were widely copied around the country. I'm trying to think of a policy that emanated form Maine that has had a similarly terrible result in the lives of millions. And then there's Attica. LePage has even had quite significant opposition from Republicans in Maine.
Delete"you don't even know what's going on where you live. "
ReplyDeleteDespite everything I love you, Sparky, so here's a tip for the next time you're in NYC.
Go to a deli and order Sara Lee cheesecake. It's the only cheesecake real New Yorkers eat.
Oh,your knowledge of the world is comprehensive, isn't it.
DeleteAre you using sockpuppets to post comments here now, too? Why bother? Or are you so demented and egomaniacle that you want to lay claim to the stupid things other New Yorkers post here?
BTW, if you order an egg cream, make sure they actually put an egg in it.
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I'll bet you'd have a fit if you realized the first egg cream I ever had was at a soda fountain in Southern New Hampshire, not the most self-obsessed locus in the hemisphere. I stopped drinking kiddie stuff when I was in my teens.
DeleteSo now you're drinking the hard stuff? Good for you, Sparky.
ReplyDeleteCoffee. Black bitter and stimulating.
DeleteAs you know, I not only don't drink but have good reason to not drink. You on the other hand don't think.
BTW, referring to an egg cream as kiddie stuff is the ground zero of anti-semitism.
ReplyDeleteTo paraphrase Louis Black, you have anti-semitism Tourette's. The accusation has been debased by liars like you accusing people of it when all it means is that someone doesn't agree with you. You've got more in common with Norman Podhoretz and Midge Decter than you'd ever want to know if you knew who they are.
DeleteI actually went to Louis Black's wedding, you dumb putz.
DeleteTrust me, he'd think you were even a bigger shithead than I do.
You don't have any refutation because there is none, you, like Midge and Norman reach for the accusation whenever you're out of your depth as you always are.
DeleteA. I met George McGovern and I don't believe he'd have said something like that, B. Neoconservatism started in the 1940s when a bunch of atheist, ex-Trots at City College and, as so many others before and after, found real liberalism uncongenial to their elitist pretensions and so took the tiny baby step between Marxist-red fascism and the green green dollars of capitalist-fascism. Though there was an interesting article in New Politics that gave Herman Wouk the, um "credit" for getting it off the ground with stuff like The Caine Mutiny. Yup, Stevie, he disses the movies.
http://newpol.org/content/first-neoconservative-herman-wouk-americanization-holocaust-and-rise-neoconservatism
Read it at your own peril, you'll probably have a stroke... wait, you won't understand it so you're probably safe. I'd love to hear how the author of the article is an anti-semite.
From a book by Sid Blumenthal:
Deletehttps://books.google.com/books?id=pSQJLqms8CcC&pg=PA37&lpg=PA37&dq=george+mcgovern+norman+podhoretz+midge+decter&source=bl&ots=P6_klKLEe3&sig=hQzoo3Tp0Q4hXmG1i-q9Gju0cS4&hl=en&sa=X&sqi=2&ved=0ahUKEwju7rPnt-fOAhWHqR4KHQDrDl8Q6AEISTAJ#v=onepage&q=george%20mcgovern%20norman%20podhoretz%20midge%20decter&f=false
A. I don't believe anything you say without documentation because, while I'm far from the most accustomed to your ability to make stuff up, I know you're an habitual liar. B. If you were at his wedding, Louis Black has my condolences. C. I don't much care what Louis Black would think about me but you're the last person whose prediction would make me worry [See A]
DeleteStill not posting the accusation, not even if it's in something Sid Blumenthal wrote. The time period is off. Neo Conservatism began well before Midge and Norman got married, George McGovern or someone might have told that as a joke but it couldn't be true because the chronology is wrong. Besides, Podhoretz wasn't the inventor of neo-conservatism, I'd think that Irving Kristol was more important to it. Neo-conservatism was around before it got called that.
DeleteWouldn't it be funny, though. if a Bogart movie got it kicked off, that would knock the stuffing out of a lot of stuff that you probably adopted from other superficial scribblers decades ago. I don't necessarily buy the premise of the article but it's fun to think about.
Fuck you, you simple shithead.
ReplyDeleteTrue story: George McGovern was having dinner with Podhoretz once, and halfway thru the looked around and turned to the Pod and said "Look at the woman at that table on the far end of the room. What a dog." And the Pod replied "That's my wife."
Till the end of his life, McGovern was convinced that his tasteless remark inspired the entire Neo-Con movement.
I'm familiar with what an ass Podhoretz the elder is. I've actually read a lot of his cultural criticism from the 50s, which oddly enough sounds a lot like you now.
ReplyDeleteI guess there's a level at which you're so stupid that I can't go there without more of an act of imagination than I'm willing to go. As one of the tuba players who I once accompanied said when I said I didn't understand how one of the theater majors could be so stupid, "Think less hard". Only they weren't as stupid as you are.
DeletePod's stuff about the beatniks is exactly like you.
DeleteAlso, your chronology of neo-con is complete bullshit,
DeleteEverything falls into three categories with you a. you like it. b. you don't like it, c. you don't like it or understand it so it's all b. to you no matter how different it is. You have more in common with Norman Podhoretz than I do, both in ideology and in stupidity.
DeleteOh, I should add, I don't like the beats because they're a. stupid, b. essentially not unlike vulgar materialist culture. The Psalms and Prophets are more counter-culture than the beats ever would have liked to have been.
DeleteIn other words, the Beats didn't like God.Therefore bad.
ReplyDeleteWe got it. 😀
Now, if I were responding in the Simels fashion I'd ask you how long you've been an advocate of raping boys, shooting wives, drinking yourself into an early grave (why didn't you do it?) and the rest of the beat beat. But I won't, instead I'll say that considering the a. and b. in my response on the beats, it's no wonder you'd think they were groovy.
DeleteI'd say it's the most overrated pop culture phenomenon pretending to be high-art but I'm not sure enough people really read them to really rate them. I think, as it is, people can name one poem by Ginsberg (I'll bet you couldn't without looking), one book by Kerouac, one, maybe by Burroughs - though they've never read it, they watched A Junky's Christmas as they pretend to have read it - a hard core Burroughs fan is one who watched the other movie - while not reading the unreadable book.
They are, essentially, just a different flavor of the lower end of mid-20th century, post-war American materialism at its most vulgar and anti-intellectual.
As for you, as old Bertie Russell is quoted to the left ,
"A Simel... oh, yeah ... stupid man's report of what a clever man says can never be accurate, because he unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand," your basic MO.
Oh, just saw, I spelled it wrong, oh well, I don't care. It's a piece of crap. And I did read it.
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