Irish nun's pectoral cross that has a skull and crossbones on it that looks like that. Unfortunately, I don't know what order my great, great aunt belonged to and anyone in my family who could have told me that is long, long gone to their final rest- it came down through my maternal grandfather's side of the family so the only thing I can tell you is it would have been an order in Ireland.
It looked a lot like this, one of literally hundreds of antique nuns' pectoral crosses with a skull and crossbones in that position you can buy online, except there is black wooden inlay that forms the cross, the metal work sign, nimbus and skull and crossbones look identical to the one on my great-great aunt's cross.
There was no Nazi party when it was made and worn, that may have been as much as a generation after her. I have no idea what my grandfather's aunt thought about anything, but I know it was nothing like that.
I recalled seeing skull and crossbones associated with American military companies and units and looked that up. Holy shit! It would have been virtually impossible for any young, callow person in the American military, or that in many, many other countries to have not been surrounded by such images. This Wiki article "Skull And Crossbones (Military) had many interesting things in it, INCLUDING THAT THE BRITISH SUBMARINES OFTEN FLEW THE "JOLLY ROGER" AFTER THEY'D SUNK A NAZI VESSEL! No doubt the sophisticates at the NYT would call them crypto-Nazis, at least they would if they figured they could get a Republican-fascist Senate that would lower their taxes or give them other things they want.
The Nazis took over that symbol which had previous German use in the military, but it hardly had any patent or copyright on it.
This is a response.
UPDATE: One of the things I am absolutely certain of, absolutely positive about is that since being called out on this is embarrassing to the "reporters" and editors and owners of the New York Times they will not drop it, they will double down, maybe drying out Modo* long enough so she can get in on it, or Bret Stephens or any of the other "opinion journalist" lying hacks at that rag. They may not destroy Platner's chances in the election, other than the minority of voters her "from away" who think the NYT is sacred and hallowed, I think most of us would be more inclined to believe it was lying for Collins and a Republican Senate than to believe it. What they're hoping is that they will create an aura, a vibe of unrespectability surrounding him which will, they hope, thwart his chances of success, either in the election or, if elected, in the Senate. Like the dopey 30 something kid I know who doesn't know anything much but knows he's not supposed to like Hillary Clinton, though when pushed to say why, he couldn't so much as bring up e-mails or Benghazi, and he'd certainly never heard of Whitewater or, probably even how SHE was held to be at fault when Bill got a BJ FROM AN ADULT WHO SAID SHE WENT TO DC TO GIVE HIM ONE.
By the way, just for those two fake Republican-fascist-NYT and other media "scandals" for which Hillary Clinton was investigated FOR YEARS, it cost us way more than $30 million dollars TEN YEARS AGO!
And that was just what we know the Congress and other government agencies spent on that.
I briefly looked for an estimate into what the investigations into the ginned up Whitewater affair was and was surprised to see a figure far higher than the $40 million I remember reading:
From its inception in 1994 to its conclusion in 2000, the Whitewater investigation, spearheaded by a series of special prosecutors and independent counsels, accrued immense costs. Estimates suggest that the total expenditure neared $70 million, a figure reflective of the extensive legal efforts, staffing, and administrative overheads required to sustain the investigation over six years. This exorbitant sum included substantial payments to legal experts, independent counsels, and numerous other administrative expenses.
It's impossible to figure out if that includes the money that was spent on Ken Starr and other's chasing after Bill's womanizing. And it doesn't seem to include all of the Congressional, FBI, Do"J" spending.
And that's only official government spending. Billionaires and millionaires hired and paid off many to investigate and make claims against her and her husband, for whose cheating on her SHE WAS BLAMED!
And in the past three and more decades of these investigations - apparently the current Republican-fascists in Congress want to reopen them - NOT A SINGLE CRIMINAL CHARGE HAS BEEN LAID AGAINST HER, NOT A SINGLE CONVICTION AGAINST HER HAS BEEN GOTTEN.
She is, beyond any doubt, the most investigated, most exonerated human being in American history and I would bet, human history. And the goddamned New York Times was in thick as thieves with the Republican-fascists the whole time.
By the way, this satirical send up of Dowd after her self-reported pot bender is about as perfect an example of parody as I know of. I detest that skank.
I see you got there ahead of me. The only thing I can see now is that it’s early days, and from what you say few in Maine who aren’t committed to Collins are biting.
ReplyDeleteHere in Texas Paxton/Trump have called Talarico a vegan, compared him to Alfred E Neuman (Paxton looks like somebody rearranged his fav with a two by four, he shouldn’t be commenting on looks), etc.It’s schoolyard shit, and none of it is sticking.
I suspect voters in Maine are more interested in what Platner wants to do, not what one person alleges he did to her.