Saturday, March 21, 2026

Those "Boots On The Ground" Mean Far Less Than Nothing To Trump Or His Crime Syndicate

SINCE IT IS THE FAITH HOLDING OF the American media, government, and at least the plurality of the American voters in the last election that any number of dead in Iran are not worth taking seriously,  I'll have to put this in terms of those American lives which have already been spent in Trump's war of whim and who they are planning on sending into a bloodbath in invading Iranian territory.   

Just as Trump and the likes of his filthy Treasury Secretary are giving Putin's Russia a huge gift of suspending sanctions on them EVEN AS THEY ADMIT THEY HAVE BEEN AIDING IRAN IN TARGETING AMERICAN TROOPS, they are also, to keep the price of oil down, AIDING THE IRANIAN GOVERNMENT EVEN AS THEY ARE MAKING WAR ON THEM USING AMERICAN SOLDIERS AS CANNON FODDER. 

From RMJ's place.

The U.S. Treasury Department’s Office of Foreign Assets Control has issued waivers temporarily lifting nearly all sanctions imposed on tankers originating from or carrying oil from the Islamic Republic of Iran, dubbed “Authorizing the Delivery and Sale of Crude Oil and Petroleum Products of Iranian-Origin Loaded on Vessels as of March 20, 2026” effective for vessels loaded on or before 12:01a.m. EST, March 20, 2026 through 12:01a.m. EST, April 19, 2026.

I DON'T THINK THERE HAS BEEN A MORE BALDLY AND CRIMINALLY CYNICAL, A MORE LITERALLY TREASONOUS ACT IN AMERICAN HISTORY OR POSSIBLY IN THE HISTORY OF NATION STATES!  

If I were in the military,  I'd be trying to foment a coup to bring down the government that is doing this.  I would risk being railroaded and killed by them, no oath I took to any Constitution that doesn't stop this can possibly have any valid moral effect,  no obligation of citizenship can possibly include what Trump and his gang of white collar criminals are doing.  


Friday, March 20, 2026

Meditations After The Death

I AM NOT SURPRISED that the death of my beloved 18-year-old, little black cat leaves me feeling the kind of bereavement that I have felt when my nearest and most loved relations and friends have died.  She was my friend and daily companion for a very significant part of my life.   I've only had one other pet who I lived with almost as long, a parrot whose long line of "owners" started with the mother-in-law of one of my great aunts.  After her Paul lived with, to my knowledge, two of my great aunts, my grandmother and grandfather and then with us.  I think he died about 16 years after we took him in and I felt very sad but he wasn't nearly as much of a friend as my last cat.  

Like David Bentley Hart, I have no time or respect for theologians or others who claim that animals do not have immortal souls.    Such as that fat-headed genius Thomas Aquinas, whose most interesting act was not writing his voluminous would-be systematic theological masterwork but when he stopped writing it after he had a profound mystical experience that led him to declare all of his previous work to be "straw."  I find him, someone who was certainly steeped in a deep knowledge of the Latin translation of the Scriptures, Jerome's Vulgate (from what I understand he didn't read either Hebrew or Greek) using that language interesting because of the verses in Isaiah that proclaim that all flesh will see the glory of God while comparing human bodies to grass that withers and is no more.   

Which leads me to think about the verses in the Scripture I most dislike and discount,  Ecclesiastes, which says that human beings and animals end up with the same fate which, in that book, ends at death.   For the life of me, I don't see how anyone ever, when they were choosing from the many, many books to include in the Jewish and Christian Scriptures included that cynical sourpuss who provides so much of the contradiction of so much of the far more inspiring Scripture, certainly in both the Jewish Scriptures but ever more so the Christian Scriptures.   I have little to no use for Aquinas so I haven't looked up to see how he may have squared that with his other claims.   David Bentley Hart points out that he was quite able to contradict himself on any number of things, including the claim that effective change of spiritual status was impossible in spirit when he believed in the story of the fallen angels.   I don't know how the Church squared such an idea with the inspired idea of purgatory.  

And all that leads me to what I understand was the first Pope to make a quasi-dogmatic declaration that Animals do not have immortal souls,  one of the worst of the modern Popes,  the odious Pius IX.  Among other things he is infamous for refusing to endorse the Italian society to prevent cruelty to Animals because to endorse kindness to Animals would contradict his vile conception of such things, probably based on the offically official theology of Aquinas. 

The traditional view that Animals have no immortal souls gives, among its reasons, that Animals can't reason so Animals can't have immortal souls.   I have to conclude that anyone who believes they can't reason has never spent much time with Animals because it's often far clearer than it is with many People that mammals, birds, and other Animals demonstrate reasoning abilities when they are presented with novel situations which they figure out far, far, faster than they could learn from trial and error unaided by reason.   Even in her last week my cat was figuring out, almost immediately, the novel means that I gave her for getting up on her favorite perch, of me, for the first time in her life, moving it into the sun for her (it didn't take two days of me doing that, for the first times, for her to make it clear to me it was time to do that).    I've seen cats do that, I've seen dogs do that,  I've seen chickens do it,  I've seen squirrels do it and chipmunks are even faster.  And with the many, many wildlife camera feeds and videos that have been posted online in the last quarter of a century, anyone who thinks wild animals can't reason has to be an amazingly stupid and clueless Person.  

An even stupider reason that I understand was shared by a number of Catholic theologians, was that Animals and plants have no immortal soul was because they were made for human beings to use and there would be no use for them in heaven so they have no immortal souls.    What, I would have asked them, were we to make of the very large majority of Animals who are never encountered by any human beings and who live out their lives unmolested and unexploited by the only animals known to be capable of intentional sin and evil?   You might forgive an Augustine or Aquinas or those whose ideological commitment insisted that their opinions had a weight that was, supposedly, reserved for the words of Jesus but, certainly, now that we know how long the line of life on Earth has been, the idea that all of those trillions of living beings and creatures (plants being creatures as well as animals - human beings, too) who lived for the vast majority of the history of known life before there were any humans, the large majority of them having no contribution made to the eventual emergence of human beings, anyone who depends on that idea today is stupider than a young-earth-creationist who is also a flat earther and a Republican-fascist dispensationalist, antisemitic Zionist. 

I know for an observed, experienced fact that many Animals, I would say most of those I've known intimately, are morally superior to most of the People I've known.  And what evils they do exhibit come with an innocence that all but the youngest or least intelligent People can be believed to share with them.  I have never known animals to show cruelty or evil actions that can, by any measure, come up to the tsunami of evil that can come from People acting in concert or, as we can see before us right now, small groups of those given enormous power through the combined forces of evil with cruel and evil intent.   And those who are the most cruel and hateful among us are presented as paragons of moral righteousness,  moral authority (religious as well as civil) and "legitmate" exercisers of power who others are morally depraved enough to believe they and others are morally obligated to follow.   No wild dog pack hunting down a deer to inflict such fear and pain as their nature as wolves hunting for food compels them to do are as cruel as the majority voting in the last American election and those they empowered to do such enormous evil - which the secular civil stand-ins for religious authority, the Constitution, the law, the judges and, worst of all, the "justices" give their would-be moral approval of.  And the would-be religious authorities, in so many cases, most of whom I'm sure would hold with the superstition that Animals are not loved enough by God for him to give them immortal souls, are all the evidence anyone would need to know that Animals are our moral superiors.  

I am of the opinion that one of the most important figures in Christianity,  Paul, had his life changed by a near death experience,  or likely two of them.  First there was the experience on the road to Damascus where he intended to do evil to the disciples of Jesus which led to his conversion.  The second one was when he was stoned by those who didn't like his preaching and was left for dead by them, only for him to survive and be rescued by his friends.   I think his entire and enormously effective career is based on that near death experience, about which, more in a minute.   I think his experience led him to believe he had a direct connection to Jesus and which seems to have given him a radically expansive view of the Gospel and the good news (so I'll give you this relevant passage from the Good News translation).  

8 I consider that what we suffer at this present time cannot be compared at all with the glory that is going to be revealed to us. 19 All of creation waits with eager longing for God to reveal his children. 20 For creation was condemned to lose its purpose, not of its own will, but because God willed it to be so. Yet there was the hope 21 that creation itself would one day be set free from its slavery to decay and would share the glorious freedom of the children of God. 22 For we know that up to the present time all of creation groans with pain, like the pain of childbirth. 23 But it is not just creation alone which groans; we who have the Spirit as the first of God's gifts also groan within ourselves as we wait for God to make us his children and[c] set our whole being free. 24 For it was by hope that we were saved; but if we see what we hope for, then it is not really hope. For who of us hopes for something we see? 25 But if we hope for what we do not see, we wait for it with patience.

Passages such as that, read directly in the original Greek, led many in the Eastern church to see the Resurrection of Jesus as having not only implications of glory for human beings (those who Paul and everyone else in the Scriptures were talking to and, mostly, about) but for the entirety of Creation, as Paul addressed in that passage in Romans.   I think that those universalist theologians such as Gregory of Nyssa, his sister Macrina, Issac of Syria, etc. get it far more than many in the Western European tradition, especially those who depended on Latin translations of the Greek that was the mother tongue of the Greeks.   I'm not familiar with the Aramaic Scriptures, so I can't relate those to the universalism that is far more often found in the Eastern Churches.   I am encouraged to read more and more Roman Catholic theologians, even some Popes are veering towards universalism, not only the limited and stunted universalism of Humans (why else would Catholics have the insight of purgatory if not for that) and also for Animals.  One of my favorite living theologians Elizabeth A. Johnson has explicitly said that and has the brilliant insight that it is a necessary understanding if we are to save the natural world from those who believe it is there for us to destroy in our exploitation of it.  Another I've just come to start reading and listening to is the Methodist David Clough who is very much worth listening to and who articulates a Christian veganism which I find about as convincing as I did the Chief Rabbi of Dublin who had such an influence on my adoption of veganism.  Though I didn't force my cat to convert, I lived with that moral ambiguity for her sake though if I could be convinced I could provide a cat or dog with an adequate vegan diet, I might try it.   Though at my age I think adopting another pet longer lived then a rat would be unfair.

Unlike, for example, the late great Catholic thinker and theologian Hans Kung,  I think the testimony of those who credibly report having had a near death experience is a valid thing to consider.   I don't mean those who have made talking about it and endlessly scribbling about it a career, I mean those who, by a change in their life for the better who say they have seen the other side.   From what I read, about a quarter of those who come back report having encountered their pets who are happy to see them and who, in at least some cases, let them know it's not their time to pass over.   Of course there's no way to know that, though there are reports of People saying that about pets they don't know died while they were held to be unconscious.   There are also reports of those who are near death and who die, having death bed experiences of seeing their loved ones, People and Animals, come to see them off.   I don't think those are of knowable reality, though I've been with dying People who clearly had those experiences, one of whom had their blood oxygen level and other vitals taken and who the nurse said were perfectly normal and who, otherwise, had all their marbles.  Unlike many, especially academic writers on such topics,  I think those provide valid evidence on which we can legitimately base our beliefs.    I think it's as knowable as any historical accounts, many of which we have only second or third hand reports - INCLUDING EVERYTHING IN SCRIPTURE.    I certainly think if you are going to take what Paul concluded from his vision of Jesus on the road to Damascus as the basis of a huge swath of Christian theology then contemporary near death experiences are validly taken as evidence.   

I will also say, since I know this will likely be read or mischaracterized by scoffing atheists, that what they claim about what happens after death is uniformly UNEVIDENCED.    When given the choice to draw conclusions about something I have not experienced or witnessed,  I'll always take what there is evidence for as producing validly held beliefs that totally unevidenced claims drawn from a priori ideological choices can't be held to have.   That is not unrelated to the theological positions I slam above which are, as well not based on any evidence but are based on commitments to ideological, philosophical authorities.   I think that the thinking of a David Bentley Hart, Elizabeth A. Johnson or David Clough are far more likely to produce good than the alternatives, atheist or religious.    I'll put my lot in with the radical universalism that holds out the hope I'll see my cat again, happy in eternity over the dismal dismissal of her goodness as existentially futile. 

Thursday, March 19, 2026

Bret Stephens Says That America's Biggest Welfare Client, Israel, Is An "Equal Ally"

THAT IS THE COUNTRY which has had the largest amount of foreign and military aid from the United States of any country at least since WWII, before there was an Israeli state.  And that's only what we know of because a lot of it would seem to be hidden from the American public.  For a now drastically outdated example:

Unlike the United States’ publicly documented military aid to Ukraine, it was impossible to get the full details of what the U.S. has shipped Israel since last Oct. 7, so the $17.9 billion for the year is a partial figure, the researchers said.

They cited Biden administration “efforts to hide the full amounts of aid and types of systems through bureaucratic maneuvering.”

Funding for the key U.S. ally during a war that has exacted a heavy toll on civilians has divided Americans during the presidential campaign. But support for Israel has long carried weight in U.S. politics, and Biden said Friday that “no administration has helped Israel more than I have.”

And that's the year before the Biden administration increased that record-setting level the next year. 

An "Equal Ally."  

If I were doing that calculation I would certainly include the cost of the various wars that the Israeli government have,  through their American agents and supporters, gotten George W. Bush and, now Donald Trump to fight as part of their regional strategy.   The costs of Israel for the United States, realistically measured, would be in the trillions of dollars by the time the disaster Trump was talked into by Netanyahu (though to be fair the Saudi ruling crime family and others in the region bought it from Trump, as well) and other Israeli governments. 

Measured in terms of the terrible cost in lives,  Americans and others, the moral culpability for murders of innocent civilians which measure in the hundreds of thousands and likely the millions and, yes, the money, Bret Stephens has probably told the biggest whopper of a lie in the history of the New York Times.   And they aren't short of competing examples. 

And that doesn't even take into account the economic effects that were certainly known to come by the Israeli fascist leadership and even some in the Trump criminal regime which is already being paid by the distruction of oil fields and other facilities, other infrastructure and the stopping of shipping which was known would be the result of such an attack on Iran. 

An "Equal Ally" which, according to the Trump Sec. of State, Marco Rubio,  forced the Trump regime to start their war.  Though I think the Saudis and other oil oligarchies have probably been more persuasive to Trump through paying him and his family for bringing it on.   If Bret wants to laud them for being good allies to the US,  I'd only be too happy to go into that, though they are in no way as persuasive in the way the Israel lobby is. 

Personally, I can tell you one thing that this and related issues of the last quarter of a century related to this has done to me, it's convinced me that the United States needs to dump Israel.  

It's not a viable colonial project, it could never stand on its own, it can't ever support itself without American aid in all of those terms mentioned above after all of that support, after all of that blood and sacrifice.    We don't owe that project another day of support. 

We also have to admit that Israel has a large number of effective and dangerous propaganda operatives in the United States who are very influential in the media and elsewhere.    When the real costs of this Iran war become apparent and undeniable,  their role in leading us into yet another of these quagmires has to be honestly, accurately and seriously addressed.    No matter how uncomfortable that makes anyone feel and no matter how much those agents lie about the character of that questioning and criticism.   And, as mentioned the other day,  a very large number of those come in the form of antisemitic "christian" Zionists.   They are certainly more of a political danger than even the combined forces of the Israel lobby.  

Tuesday, March 17, 2026

If You Want To Honor St. Patrick The Escaped Slave

 work against slavery.  

Maybe A Third "AI" Generated Fake "Proof of Life" Only Proves There Is No Real Proof Of LIfe - Question And Response

Q: Do You Think That Bibi Netanyahu Is Dead?

R: I DON'T KNOW but I have to say that it should be a rule of thumb that when the Israelis release a third "proof of life" video that has weird "AI" like elements in it, there aren't may more nails to be put in that coffin.  Each one of them has had obvious "AI" slop in it, like six fingers on one hand, the weirdness with the differences in numbers of teeth in the second one, the disappearing ring in the latest one. . . 

Of course, he could dispel any question by an indisputable appearance in public.  For example, in a televised appearance before the Israeli parliarment attested to by his political enemies or, better, in a court to answer for his crimes.   I mean the ones that the corrupt Israeli system would prosecute him for.   Or he could answer the international court's indictment of him in public.   If, in that regard, those who think he's alive and has fled Israel to save his criminal ass are right, it might be the most appropriate way for him to prove he's not dead.

Do I think the Trumpzis would try to drag out the length of time a dead Trump was held to be alive so that Thiel and his bitch, Vance wouldn't take over and start throwing disposable members of the Trump gang to the wolves as I expect them to do like immediately?   Geesh, has anyone lost a bet on them not doing anything and everything to maintain power over the crime syndicate the US government is controlled by under the Republicans?    

Monday, March 16, 2026

RMJ Has A Good Post Up Talking About Some Of The "Christian" Theological Theories Influencing Trump's Diasterous Policy

BEFORE GOING ON,  I'll point out that when I wrote about this last week I consistently typed the Bible annotating con-man's name "Schofield" which is how the family I grew up with spelled it, he didn't use the "H."    Which I mention in passing and in case anyone used what I typed to look up the topic.  I usually look up the spelling of names, there being so much variation but I've been busy, it's planting season and I've got a sick 18-year-old-cat to nurse. 

RMJ knows a lot more about that than I do, it being about as foreign from Catholicism as it's possible for something deputed to be "Christian" to be.   But it is enormously influential with tens of millions of those "white evangelicals" who are white supremacist-fascists in the Republican Party.   There are, though, other evangelicals of all identities it's not true of.  Especially when it comes to anabaptists and others who split into new denominations over a verse here and there,  it gets really complicated really fast.   

RMJ's post starts out by the news that that noted theologian,  the gay, capitalist libertarian, at times reportedly fascist-trad catho-convert Peter Thiel* giving a series of lectures in Rome - which the Catholic Church is disassociating themselves from.   Trad-cath converts, whether those who are trying to repeal Vatican II and want the liturgy to be mumured in Latin or  the wave of supposedly ex-evangelicals who are also polluting the Orthodox church in America are the worst.  Or, at least, they are supplementing the worst that was there.   Though some have accused the Catholic Church of taking Thiel in along with such as Gingrich and a host of other shady Republican-fascists,  he would apparently be posing as some kind of informal "orthodox"  for the moment.   So I'll address that part of it here

Peter Thiel, the MAGA-friendly tech billionaire and devout Christian, began a run of religious meetings close to the Vatican on Sunday, raising concerns among Catholics.

Lets get one thing straight,  Thiel isn't any kind of a Christian, he clearly is a worshiper of Mammon,  that is wealth, he opposes every word Jesus ever said approaching the topics of economics, justice, equality, and pretty much everything else.  He's, of course, not alone in that, a very large percentage of those who profess "Christianity" are as little believing or professing The Gospel, the Epistles, the faithful Christian tradition in favor of some perversion of all of those.  Those of us who aspire to follow Jesus had better start denouncing these Mammonist worshipers of the world and its riches or we have no one to blame when those whose knowledge of Christianity is anything from lacking to totally tacit believe that evil is what Christianity is.   Every one of the right-wing converts who I complain of above, see the Catholic Church as a large, influential, perhaps even powerful and wealthy operation that they want to take control of just as they have the government of the United States,  that's all it is to them.  And I would include many members of the Catholic hierarchy as promoting that perversion of Christianity as well as, for example, the current Patriarch of Moscow. 

Thiel, 58, has brought his series of lectures on the Antichrist to Rome. He first held these talks in San Francisco last fall, pushing the idea that a figure opposing Christ would soon emerge to create a “totalitarian one-world government.”

In his speeches, Thiel has harped against the dangers of woke policy such as environmental protections and tech industry regulations. During his San Francisco run, he called Gen Z environmental activist Greta Thunberg one of the “legionnaires of the Antichrist” and slammed Pope Leo XIV as a “woke American pope,” according to The Guardian.

LET ME ALSO ANNOUNCE HERE THAT IF I AM NOT YET WOKE I HOPE I AM WOKE VERY SOON AND PLEDGE THE REST OF MY LIFE TO WAKING EVERYONE I ENCOUNTER UP.  If Leo is "woke" HURRAY!   "Woke" is an entirely admirable thing to aspire to being,  the opposite is what the Thiels and his fellow fascist tech-bro fascists want everyone to be, a semi-conscious object to use, exploit, mark as an object of hate to organize the haters and harness them (the old-line "Southern strategy" of the Republican right's use for them) as a means of taking power and lording it over us all. 

Now, the former evangelical and self-described “small-o orthodox Christian” has taken his teachings to the Catholic Church’s backyard. Thiel reportedly partnered with Catholic universities in Rome to bring his invite-only series to the city, although two institutions alleged to be involved have denied this.

“With reference to several articles that have appeared in the press in recent days regarding an alleged event with Peter Thiel at the Pontifical University of St. Thomas Aquinas (Angelicum), we would like to clarify that this event is not organized by the University, will not take place at the Angelicum, and is not part of any of our institutional initiatives,” shared the Pontifical University of St. Thomas Aquinas in a statement on its website.

The Associated Press reported that Thiel’s event was “jointly organized” by the Vincenzo Gioberti Cultural Association, an Italian Christian political organization, and the Cluny Institute at the Catholic University of America in Washington, D.C. While cultural association confirmed its involvement, the Catholic University of America told the outlet it was “not sponsoring or hosting an event featuring Peter Thiel this month in Rome.”

As the U.S.T.A. happens to be one of the institutions which produced Pope Leo, (1984 Licentiate of Canon Law and 1987 Doctor of Canon Law)  I would think they would be unlikely to want to sponsor or be associated with a set of screeds from Thiel, who clearly hates Leo as much as he hated Francis.  So, as Buffy might put it,  survey says, LIAR.    

I would be interested to know just who made that claim to start with and if anyone at the university was in contact with Thiel and his fellow fascists.  

It’s unclear where the lectures, which will take place between March 15 and 18, are being held.

What is clear is that Catholics and Orthodox churches should be very, very careful about taking in right-wing, "ex-evangelicals" without a serious process of formation because, at the very least, they can give rise to a great deal of confusion and, at most, they are quite capable especially the billionaires and millionaires, of trying to mount a hostile takeover of it.   None of which is bound to produce anything good. 

I hope someone smuggles out recordings of what Thiel has to say,  I would expect that any Q&A wouldn't confront him about that thing which such "trads" seem to care about most these days, his sex life.  But I wouldn't count on any of that.   I wouldn't trust a "transcript" that was issued because, as can be seen above, they are liars and followers of the prince of liars.  

* Capitalist libertarianism being far more incompatible with the Gospel and Epistles than being gay, though I'm sure his fellow "christians" wouldn't see it that way.   I will say I would expect Thiel would give up gay libertarianism a lot faster than he'd give up the capitalism.  He knows that billionaires can always buy themselves liberties that governments, even theocratic ones, won't allow to the plebs.   

Sunday, March 15, 2026

What About His Tattoo?

GRAHAM PLATNER has noted that when he got the tattoo in question he was young, stupid and drunk in the company of other young men (service members) who were also young, stupid and drunk and he had no idea what implications could be drawn from them.  

I have to say that most of those in Maine who have heard his explanation, as well as his decision in more sober adulthood to obliterate them are entirely OK with that explanation.   He has also noted that much of the flack from that seems to come from the corporate Democratic establishment who were so clueless and, obviously, so lacking in suitable alternatives that they had to talk the 77 year old Janet Mills into running  against him.   Don't get me wrong,  I have been thankful that Janet Mills was my governor instead of the Republican-fascist alternative, especially during Covid (her sister Dr. Dora was Maine's chief health official,  though not appointed by her sister) and in standing up to Trump.  But she has hardly been a progressive Democrat,  too much of a lawyer to be one of those, and if there is one thing that is obvious, at her age she is too old to elect as a first-time member of Congress.    Chuck Schumer drafting her TO RUN IN MAINE marks her as just another one of a series of establishment Democrats who have been selected to run for Senate and Governor only to lose to far worse Republicans.   Chuck knows about as much about Maine as he does about being an effective opposition to Trump, which is not enough to be demonstrable. 

I could give you a list of Democrats who the establishment supported but who those of us who keep track of Maine politics knew would be a diaster, James Tierney comes to mind as one who was a particularly bad choice forty years ago.   

I have followed Maine politics since the 1960s and remember them back into the 50s.   I have never seen a candidate for any office who has generated the kind of excitment that Graham Platner has.   I think his progressive populist, egalitarian, blue-collar appeal is responsible for that and it is exactly what most Democratic campaigns for higher an state-wide office have lacked.    While I can't predict what he will do if he gains the seat,  I know he'll be better than Susan Collins WHO THE DEMOCRATIC ESTABLISHMENT HAS NOT MANAGED TO DEFEAT EVEN WITH SOME GOOD CANDIDATES IN THE SAME VEIN AS JANET MILLS and I take his declaration that he has every intention to not be another Fetterman as showing he knows and disdains that kind of treason.  

I never entirely trust any politician,  having seen too many of the disappoint and a few who turned really bad but I am encouraged by Platner and those who support him.    He has my vote,  I hope he sets the pace for the beginning of the end of the Democratic establishment who have been blowing things in Maine since the 1970s,  especially the central-costal clique who have been a self-obsessed group of muddlers.