Monday, September 14, 2026

It's from a certain kind of reactionary traditionalism that prefers, as Peter Thiel put it, the Christ of Constantine to the Christ of Mother Teresa . . . Well, as Elon told us, you know, empathy is a sickness.

TRANSCRIBING A LECTURE can be difficult, translating an interview into text is often far harder.  Among other things you never know how someone whose words you try to take down would have done that themselves, especially when they are a master writer and thinker.   But I decided to go on to provide some more stable form of what was said in that interview I excerpted on the fly yesterday.   You should go listen to the  interview,  starting at about minute six will get you into this section. 

No, I mean but this is this is the rising [situation]. . .  I've I [hear] this all the time. I mean this talk now of young men gravitating to the church.

Well, a lot of them are gravitating there for politically reactionary reasons that this is like,  this is this isn't Islam.  This isn't secularism which "has disappointed me because I'm an incel."  

You know that I I'm not I want to make that clear. I'm married.

And they're embracing Christianism — to use a phrase that was popular in Russia at one time — rather than Christ. 

And this is very much a part of this this surge towards the right wing that we see going throughout the [world]. 

I've met a number of young . . .  there are others who are very sincere. Don't get me [wrong] . . . (cross talk) No, no, that that there is always the person that whose motives are good.  It's just the motives are confused.

That's why I want a discrimination between fidelity to this ideal of Christendom and fidelity to Christ. Many  who go in,  these young persons, who are being drawn back to Orthodoxy or Catholicism or want Christ but  the two things are still united in the minds of a lot of them.   

And then there are real culture warriors who, you know, who if they could like . . .  I don't know, they might have tattoos of crusader crosses on their on their chests. And and that's actually  the most dangerous temptation at the moment is not certainly not from atheists. 

It's from a certain kind of reactionary traditionalism that prefers, as Peter Thiel put it, the Christ of Constantine to the Christ of Mother Teresa.

He was saying that is something desirable. He prefers the Christianity of Constantine to that of Mother Teresa.   Well, as Elon told us, you know, empathy is a sickness. 

I don't know that it can be put better than that,  the Christianity of Constantine as opposed to that of a Mother Teresa - I will remind those who absorbed the late Christopher Hitchens' debunkery of Mother Teresa that he ended his days, though a famous ex-Trotskyite neo-atheist,  as a proponent of the worst of that Constantinian tradition, a crusader of the Bush II regime's Iraq crusade (some of the stupider among them were stupid enough to call it that in public, as if that was likely to go over well among those the neo-cons needed to make common cause with if their oil grab - he was an open advocate of taking the oil -  and pro-Israel gambit was going to work).     

I also remember that in his obituary of his fellow Nation columnist, the then dying, himself, Alexander Cockburn noted that Hitchens was notably stingy to beggars and the indigent.  He said that if he were dying in the gutter and had a choice between the Hitchens approach and that of Mother Teresa,  at least the nun would give him a bowl of soup and other material aid.   

And that has been characteristic of way, way too much of Constiantinian "Christianity"* that morphed into that very distortion of the Gospel of Jesus into its opposite in feudalism.   

I would get into some of the low-lights of that in such things as Augustine's late works and the disastrous effect that those had on later Catholic, Lutheran and Calvinist - and from there the current and putrid heresy of dispensationalist hooey, but that would take a series longer than my several on Darwinism's consequences and the current one I'm still working on against the Supreme Court's Marbury usurpation. 

I go back to Senator Warnock who put it so well when, during a committee hearing, he said he was a "Matthew 25 Christian."  One who takes seriously the commandment of Jesus that what we do for the least among us we do for God - the least including more than those he included in the saying,  the hungry, the homeless, the sick, the prisoner,  and would certainly include the alien living among us - he said that most strongly in some of his most pointed and inclusive parables - and what we fail to do FOR THEM we fail to do to God.   

The disaster that the establishment of Christianity as the state religion of Rome, of other countries, and of particular denominations of Christianity was that it made the religious authorities and traditions collusive with the secular states which are certainly not likely to follow the teachings of Jesus, the Prophets (talk about your savage protest poets) the Law and the Epistles.  There was a reason that a combination of state powers and colluding religious authorities killed the Prophets and Jesus and James and Peter and Paul (by the best evidence we have of their ends) and why what they taught cannot ever be entirely compatible with any form of government yet devised by human beings - though I hold out some hope for a truly egalitarian democracy - and why those lists of modern day apostate "pastors" I listed are some of the least convincing in their professions of Christianity but who fit in so well with the distinction that David Bentley Hart makes between the Gospel and the pseudo-Christian ideology of "Christianism."  

* And an enormous part of secularism, the Fabian distortion of socialism, much of Marxism, as well as capitalism.   

Sunday, September 13, 2026

"Christianism" "Christendom" So I Suppose The Word I've Searched For Is "Christianist"

DAVID BENTLEY HART is a master speaker and writer and thinker so I should have guessed he'd be the one who would provide the term I've been searching for since before the turn of the millennium and the idea put succinctly to talk about the pseudo-Christianity that is flourishing and has been promoted by the media since at least the rise of Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson and Jimmy Swaggart . . .  Paul White, Robert Barron, etc.  

Here is how he starts this more than excellent interview. 

Rainn Wilson:  What do you hope for the future of Christianity as a whole? 

David Bentley Hart:  I'm hoping for vast historical failure, which has already happened. But I mean, as long as the temptation of power, the discourse of rescuing civilization in which we love the preeminence of the throne and altar accommodations of the great age of Christendom more than we love the humility and kindness and compassion of Christ. 

I mean, look, we have people in the American,  Christosphere - I don't know what to call it - colluding with a government that that is, you know, torturing, abusing, the stranger in our midst or even the right.

Sure. Well, I mean, what's Matthew chapter 25  What does Christ say? 

I mean, it's precisely these persons where you'll find me. "As much as whatever you do to them, you've done to me."

I mean that and if you want to love Christ according to Matthew 25, you had better love the the little 5-year-old boy in the bunny hat who was taken away to a hellish prison.  You should love all these people whom uh whom I is and and the DHS general are abusing and arresting and and tormenting and making, you know, the the objects of hatred. 

I want to see the whole project of Christianism of Christendom. collapse,  collapse under its own weight in an absolute abject historical failure so vast that the very words Christian civilization will have to be nothing other than soup kitchens. . . . 

I was listening to a discussion by a specialist in the recently excommunicated cult of SSPX, the followers of Marcel Lefebvre, the "trad-catholic" cult who said that his ideology was the bizarre neo-medievalist, French monarchist fascism that wants to revive the French monarchy and reestablish the system of king-church collusion, destroying democracy and reestablishing that kind of feudalism.  Exactly what the trad-caths of the United States claim they want to establish here with a Republican-fascist president and their christianist fascist "church" becoming the state religion and, no doubt, money flowing to them.  If you think that's far fetched, look at who is sitting on the Court and running the other two branches these days.   Only watch out when the various factions of christianism with a financial interest in looting the treasury start fighting among themselves.  Pete Kegbreath will be ordering the military to put his racist, misogynist, christianist "pastor" in charge and the lunatics of the Pentachostalist factions, the Southern Baptists, the neo-Calvinists and the trad-caths all want preeminence and the biggest cut for themselves. 

The trad-catholics are struggling to maintain and set the remnants of the long tradition of Catholic feudal distortion up over the Vatican II Church that was, itself, a part of a long, more than century long effort to reform the Church, starting with Leo XIII.  There has been nothing more pressing within the Catholic Church than to reestablish it as a Christian Church, suppressing those centuries of distortion under feudalism and,  I say, the nationalist garbage of the late 18th through 20th centuries.   Nationalism has a lot more in common with feudalism with a gloss of late 19th century biological romanticism which - by the way - also infects a lot of the alleged liberalism and leftism that has failed to win against it. 

I completely endorse this. 

. . . That's where you would like to see Christianity end up in the future is people that would remain behind.

Yeah. I want to see  the last illusory traces of Christendom, the last temptation of the sword rather than the cross just utterly destroyed by historical misfortune.

And we may be heading heading there. I'm very hopeful at that.  But of course we may take the world out with us. That could be a bit of an inconvenience.

Here's the whole thing.


I'm glad to see that DBH is looking so much better these days after his long illness.