Sunday, September 10, 2017

The BBC Brings On Another Aborted Nun-Run Orphanage Scandal Before Its Time

Another day, another e-mail demanding I answer for another Brit Catholic orphanage "scandal" which, upon reading what was sent to me, is just the BBC doing what it's done before, holding Nuns who ran an orphanage to a far higher standard than they do secular institutions or, in fact, the horrific treatment of orphans, widows and paupers that was general in Britain in the 19th and early 20th century.   Also, holding the past, especially the pre-antibiotic past, in which infant and child mortality rates, especially in institutional settings and wherever people were poor, to modern expectations.

I don't, from reading what the BBC posted, know if there is an actual scandal attributable to the Nuns who ran the place.  And, apparently,  neither do they. 

The children were all residents of a care home run by Catholic nuns.

At least 400 children are thought to be buried in a section of St Mary's Cemetery in Lanark.
The Daughters of Charity of St Vincent de Paul, which ran the home, refused to comment on the findings.

The research by the File on 4 programme in conjunction with the Sunday Post newspaper focused on Smyllum Park Orphanage in Lanark.

It opened in 1864 and provided care for orphans or children from broken homes. It closed in 1981, having looked after 11,600 children.

A burial plot, containing the bodies of a number of children, was uncovered by two former residents of Smyllum in 2003.

Frank Docherty and Jim Kane discovered an overgrown, unmarked section of St Mary's Cemetery during their efforts to reveal physical abuse which they said many former residents had suffered.

In 2004, the campaigners said the Daughters of Charity told them their records suggested that children had been buried in 158 compartments in the graveyard.

Frank and Jim, who both died earlier this year, believed however, that the numbers were far higher as the nuns had indicated their records were incomplete.

The investigation by File on 4 and the Sunday Post indicates they were right; at least 400 children are understood to be buried in the plot.

"Oh my God, I've got goose pimples. It's shocking," said Frank Docherty's widow, Janet.
"He had been trying for years to find a figure and he didn't get anywhere. That's unbelievable."

The death records indicate that most of the children died of natural causes, from diseases common at the time such as TB, pneumonia and pleurisy.

Analysis of the records show that a third of those who died were aged five or under. Very few of those who died, 24 in total, were aged over 15, and most of the deaths occurred between 1870 and 1930.

Janet Docherty might find that shocking and unbelievable but, having looked at this kind of thing before and the general character of British "charitable" institutions of the period, especially the appalling system of death camps that the Workhouses were, none of it is surprising or shocking, including that rate of death, nor the fact that the dead were buried in a single location without any markers or records.  That was typical of the way of death, at all ages, but especially among infants and children, in British and other institutions of most of the time.  

If an inmate died in the workhouse, the death was notified to their family who could ,if they wished, organize a funeral themselves.  If this did not happen, which was often the case because of the expense, the Guardians arranged a burial in a local cemetery or burial ground - this was originally required to be in the parish where the workhouse stood...

The burial would be in the cheapest possible coffin and in an unmarked grave, into which several coffins might be placed on the same occasion. Under the terms of the 1832 Anatomy Act, bodies unclaimed for forty-eight hours could be disposed of by donating them for use in medical research and training - this was not specific to workhouses, but applied to any institution whose inmates died while in its care.  Deaths were, however, not always registered in the normal way. 

Pauper funerals were often without mourners.  At Bourne in 1901, the workhouse master reported that despite repeated invitations, workhouse inmates always declined to attend funerals.  This was perhaps a testimony to the old saying, "rattle his bones over the stones, he's only a pauper whom nobody owns."

And as to the dignity accorded to the graves of the poor, the unwanted, etc.

Following the closure of many of London's old parish graveyards in the 1850s, a number of new cemeteries - often commercially operated - were set up at out-of-town locations.  The most prominent of these were the London Necropolis....

In September 1883, the Times carried a report about the transport of pauper bodies to Colney Hatch Cemetery from Clerkenwell workhouse mortuary by an undertake's sub-contractor.  It had been alleged that a coach carrying five coffins three of adults and two of children had broken down on Exmouth Street with the coffins rolling into the road.  It was also claimed that, for the sake of economy bodies were kept in store until a batch of sufficient size was reached, resulting in offensive smells.  The coffins were said to be identified only by a name chalked on them and that during the journey the writing rubbed off  Although an investigation of committee of Guardians refuted the allegations it was agreed that the union should acquire its own hearse, coach and horses for the use at pauper funerals. 

I doubt they afforded markers for the infants and children who died in horrifically high numbers or even took much notice or bother to document where they were disposed of.  

I would suspect that if the BBC looked for bodies of infants and children at just about any British workhouse they would find similar if not worse practices under the auspices of the British government.  I have pointed out a number of times, the workhouse system was designed to starve the inmates, the food rations to the inmates was smaller than that given to prisoners.  Many children as well as adults died of starvation in them, they even recorded the deaths as by starvation so there was no secret made of it.  And I have pointed out that the law in Britain which allowed men to father children out of wedlock, relieving them of any obligation to care for them led to widespread infanticide, enough so that it was not uncommon to find bodies of infants dumped in the streets of London.  

And it was hardly just British institutions in the islands that fell under that appalling system of hatred of the poor and powerless, it is typical of institutions of the time.   

In order to know if this is a scandal, you would have to know how the children died, if their death rate was unusually high for the years and locations they happened in and if those deaths could have been prevented.   Without doing that this is not journalism.   Until that is done, it's holding Catholic Nuns to a higher standard than others who operated institutions.   

When Is The BBC Going To Look At The Scandal of Eminent British Scientists Advocating The Benefits Of The Deaths OF Infants And Children In The Same Time Period?  

You might want to look at this paper, Infant Mortality and the Health of Survivors: Britain 1910-1950 by Timothy J. Hatton to see that there was a real infant and child death scandal in those years and it wasn't one by created by Catholic nuns but in entirely secular scientists and politicians who asserted that a high infant and child mortality rate was socially beneficial, improving the stock of the working class.   You can read about that on pages 3-7 of the paper.  Two things, first is this quote from the eminent British sociological researcher, Seebohm  Rowntree's survey of the working class of York in 1901,  

[i]t is sometimes urged that although the individual suffering indicated by high infant mortality is considerable, it is not without some counterbalancing advantages, as sickly children are thus weeded out.  Even if this Spartan view is accepted, it must be remembered that of those who survive, a large proportion do so only with seriously enfeebled constitutions.

I will remind people who have read my blog that taking such a "Spartan view" had been promoted by Charles Darwin in The Descent of man in 1872 and it characterized his disciples, who by that time pretty much encompassed the large majority of the educated class of Britain and elsewhere.  That can be seen by fact checking this from the same paper. 

The most well-known protagonist of the selection view in the early twentieth century was the eminent statistician Karl Pearson.  Following Francis Galton he stressed the importance of heredity.  

"The selection view" was the assertion that natural selection, the deaths of those of "lesser fitness," especially as children, was beneficial for the surviving population, as asserted by biologists and others who believed in natural selection since it was first invented. 

If health was largely inherited, then elimination of the least fit at an early age would increase the average fitness of the survivors as well as preserving racial quality in the longer run [ after a brief discussion of problems with data collection it continues]... As he put it" "the only method by which data for different different districts can be compared is by endeavouring to fix the nature of the environment.  We want to know whether under a constant environment, the correlation between the death rates of infancy and of childhood is positive or negative." 

Only, Pearson was in little doubt that the actual deaths of infants and children was positive.  You can read that section of the paper to see how the scientific assertion that infants and children dying young was a good thing.  But there is little to no doubt that Pearson and other British and English language scientists and scholars asserted that there was an up-side to high mortality rates for the children of the poor and destitute.   I have mentioned before that Karl Pearson was the author of a pamphlet which decried the use of cesarean section because it kept too many babies and mothers alive who would have died in childbirth, on the assumption that such as did die were inferior and that their survival was a danger to the future of humanity.  What Darwin wrought in inventing natural selection is a real scandal but I don't expect the BBC or the people who find these kinds of scandals buried under Victorian orphanages - but only those run by Nuns - will want to look into. 

If a real investigation that takes into account actual evidence and compares it to the general child mortality rate in British institutions to see if the Nuns who ran the place were culpable finds a scandal, then I'll address the scandal.  As of now, just as in previous cases, the journalists haven't done that. 

I don't doubt this will be revisited in the coming days.  I wonder if, as the previous "scandal" in Tuam, if it will turn out that the orphanage was located in property of the local workhouse.  There was one in Lanark, I wonder how many children are buried in unmarked, undocumented graves who died there under British Government auspices.  I wonder if the BBC has ever done any reporting about that. 

42 comments:

  1. Docherty seems to be the"villain" here. No one with a passing knowledge of19the century British lit would be surprised by your historical data. And the idea that Catholics were especially venal is just good old Anglo-American anti-Papist thought, redux.

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  2. Besides, science is always better than religion, right? I'm sure those children needed to die to improve the gene pool. Oh, wait, they didn't know about genes in the19th century. Oh, well, same difference.

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    1. If you want to see how truly depraved it is, you can read Karl Pearson's paper, The Intensity of Natural Selection in Man

      https://ia600700.us.archive.org/17/items/philtrans08024173/08024173.pdf

      I'll point out two things, first is in his last paragraph in which he, having seen the propensity of the British government to aid natural selection by policies killing the poor, of having British politicians and scientists - some he cites - putting those merely scientific observations asserting the desirability of killing the poor into law and policy, he disavows the role of science in that result.

      Another is his citation of Alfred Ploetz, who would go on to be one of the most influential proto-Nazi and later Nazi scientific racists in the first paragraph of his paper, in order to support his contention about the beneficial effects of infant and early childhood mortality. Apparently his conclusion is that by the age of six, most of those whose deaths are eugenic happens by natural means. He is truly depraved.

      I might include more on that later, as I might the section in Marilynne Robinson's Mother Country in which she notes Pearson's fellow Fabians, especially Beatrice Webb decrying the expense that poor Britians go to to give their dead a decent burial - discussing the Jewish practice of having memorial societies for the same purpose.

      This latter day concern for the unmarked graves of destitute Children, so long as they died under the care of Nuns is rather telling, especially considering such things as the same happening in secular institutions, especially sanitariums under the oversight of the medical profession and reform schools such as the one which was held up (rightly) as a scandal a few years back. It was hardly uncommon for children in institutions or adults, for that matter, to be buried in high concentrations without markers.

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  3. "Another day, another
    e-mail demanding I answer for another Brit Catholic orphanage "scandal"
    which, upon reading what was sent to me, is just the BBC doing what it's done before, holding Nuns who ran an orphanage to a far higher standard than they do secular institutions"

    Yup, just another day in Bumfuck, Maine. Who amongst us hasn't had something similar?

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    1. Oh, you got really upset with me when I dissed anal sex, does this mean it's not fashionable in the New York untelligensia these days?

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    2. You're a deeply disturbed person.

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    3. Ooh, is my talk too explicit for you to take? I'm not the one who advocates sex that he then asserts is icky when someone calls you on that, I'm consistent about that. You're the one who's twisted on that count.

      As it is, I'm a gay man who grew up in the 1960s and 70s, I feel entirely comfortable talking about sex in the most explicit of terms. It would scare the fuck out of you if you knew what I'd witnessed. It's how I learned that there is all the difference between moral sex and immoral sex and that the difference is in the actual harm done to people through it, to their minds and souls as much as to their bodies.

      You're such a prudish little poseur.

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    4. Oh fuck off. I'm the same age as you and I lived in Manhattan most of my life. I've seen and done things that would curl your pubes, assuming you had any.

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    5. Mine are naturally curly.

      Straight boys, they don't have the first idea. You'll never convince me that you're sadder but wiser, you're plenty sad but you're light years shy of wise.

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    6. You know as much about straight boys as you know about Jews or comedy. I.e., zilch.

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    7. Oh, yeah, that would be because the world of straight boys is such a covert, hidden world that isn't ever talked about in books, in movies, on TV, in pop music, and something that straight boys can never stop talking about, themselves. How could a gay guy ever find out about them?

      Let me give you the terrifying news, bunky, the girls are on to you too.

      I think we've established that your idea of comedy is endlessly regurgitating old jokes that I heard when you still didn't have pubic hair.

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    8. You do realize that every time you use the phrase "straight boys" like that you reveal yourself as a bigot, right? It's your equivalent of the N Word.

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    9. "Let me give you the terrifying news, bunky, the girls are on to you too."

      What you know about girls is what you know about straight boys and rock 'n roll. I.e., nada.

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    10. Ooh, you're so put upon, you straight white boys, no one gets you, no one understands you, you poor little things with all of your privilege.

      No, dear, in the United States in 2017, "straight boys" is in no way and in no possible realistic concept comparable to "the N Word". You'd have to be at risk for it to be that. Yet another thing you straight white boys don't get but which those who see you do.

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    11. I know that girls know more about straight white boys like you than you'll ever know about them. It's a rare straight, white boy who knows anything about anyone but himself and his buddies.

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  4. Can you imagine holding nuns to a higher standard than secular institutions?

    UNFAIR!!!!!

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    1. I know you don't do math but if the accusation is, as it seems to be in the story, that over the course of its existence as an orphanage which cared for 11600 children and the accusation is that 400 of them died, that's 3.4% which is below the current infant mortality rate of England and Wales. Considering that the claim is that most of the children died between 1870 and 1930, before antibiotics were available, that would be a far lower death rate than was common even among non institutionalized children.

      They either need more information to make a scandal out of or they're just being stupid. You're just stupid.

      You should go read what Karl Pearson had to say about why Jews should be kept from moving to Britain, I have to say, in Karl Pearson I think you find one of the strongest links between Darwinism and Nazism and he's what passed as a goddamned Socialist in Britland. Only, you don't read.

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    2. You're so right. Religious institutions should be held to laxer standards than all those atheist materialists that haunt you fevered imagination.

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    3. You know, Simps, if you'd attended a Catholic school or even the public elementary school I did, out here in the wilds of Maine, you'd have stood a better chance of attaining at least a subsistence level of literacy.

      I'm not bothering to point out what I already have.

      As it was, it was the atheists, like Pearson and Galton and, your great hero, the hero of so many a BBC costume drama, Charles Darwin who advocated a high child death rate as a good thing, explicitly saying so. There's no fevered imagination in that, they said it over and over again, Darwin, himself, preferring that kind of thing over the proposal that birth control was a better idea than relying on the death rate to achieve his end of exterminating the poor, those he deemed racially and ethnically inferior. I didn't have to imagine that, I read them saying so.

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    4. I'm also not going to post your very stupidest of comments because yours are so very stupid.

      I guess you don't watch the science junk from the BBC, preferring your bodice rippers Do you keep a set of knee breeches to put on when you're playing Poldark? Or do you just imagine yourself there, like Caspar Milquetoast?

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  5. What -- you didn't like the joke about Charles Darwin being a Dalek in all those 70s DR WHO episodes?

    And don't get snobby about DR WHO with me, Sparky. You're the one obsessed with HITCHHIKERS GUIDE.

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    1. If you'd made a joke, maybe I'd have found it amusing. I know the difference between a joke and stupidity, you do stupidity.

      I'm obsessed with Hitchhiker's Guide? Maybe with wishing that it would just go away and that Douglas Adams heirs would stop milking his one and only claim to fame. Don't tell me, they're doing the 7th remake, they seem to be doing them at about the rate of two a decade.

      It was funny when I heard it on the radio, mildly amusing the first time on TV and increasingly unfunny after that. Douglas Adams was the Arthur Dent of Brit comedy, in the end. If he'd lived he'd probably be a miserable, washed-up drunk by now.

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  6. "You know, Simps, if you'd attended a Catholic school..."

    Then I would have missed out on that highly lucrative Bar Mitzvah I had in 1960. So what?

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    1. I'll bet it was vulgar.

      Jewish students can go to Catholic schools. The ones I know of around here don't discriminate. Even Protestants can go to them.

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    2. Vulgar? You have no idea. I have 3D slides, a la View Master, of the affair.

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    3. I can only imagine how many Jews would be thrilled to go to Catholic Schools. Probably about as many white cracker Xtian Arizonans would be thrilled to have the Jews of Israel emigrate to Tempe.

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    4. Even your vulgarity is boring, that is even more boring than vulgarity inherently is.

      You want to keep proving you can't make an original joke, I'm powerless to prevent you from doing so.

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    5. The rate of anti-semitic incidents in Arizona is far lower than in New York or New Jersey, as reported by the ADL. Apparently there are a number of Jewish congregations in Arizona who choose to stay there, or are you so senile you don't remember our recent go-round on the fact that Gaby Giffords and her family have chosen to remain there. Maybe they're secure in the comfort that they're not likely to run into that Simels asshole if they stay there.

      But, then, like your typical NYC hick, you probably figure you'd fall off the side of the Earth if you went that far west.

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  7. If you can tell me where you and RMJ are registered, I'd be happy to send a present. A his and his set of dildos maybe? Seriously, trying to defend the Catholic Church is pathetic. Compare the suffering and pain caused by your "religions" to Atheists and maybe you would see the truth. I enjoy the fact that when you die, your last thought will be - "fuck -there's nothing there - no heaven, jebus, gawd...... I'm just dead". You really are a fucking moron.

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    1. Wherever it is I'm not telling you, I have all the socks I need.

      You're giving yourself away, Simps, the probability of two such illiterate douchebags not being the same douchebag is not very high.

      Your fantasy about my death amuses me. I can imagine as you're dying and you find out it's just the beginning your thoughts might be, "Oh, fuck". Ain't purgatory a bitch?

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  8. "The rate of anti-semitic incidents in Arizona is far lower than in New York or New Jersey, as reported by the ADL."

    That's because unlike the NY Metro area, nobody -- including Jews -- is stupid enough to live in that miserable desert hellhole.

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    1. Let me break this to you, Simps, most people elect to not live in the NY Metro area. We're not all clamoring to get in and there's a reason that people like you have earned it the bad reputation as having more than its fair share of conceited, ignorant, provincial, snobbish, assholes. The proud home of Donald Trump, Rudy Giuliani, Ed Koch, .... I don't find any reason to even think of going there, anymore.

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  9. "most people elect to not live in the NY Metro area. I don't find any reason to even think of going there, anymore."

    If you're trying to upset me, you're doing a really mediocre job.

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    1. Simps Simps, Simps, I don't care enough to want to upset you. If you didn't come here in both your guises, if you didn't lie about me at Duncan's, I wouldn't bother mentioning you again.

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  10. I just came over to laugh publicly that an avowedly atheist blog would link to my "viral" post. In the same post is a claim that " the Bible is full" of stories of God smithing people for "violating taboos." Ignorant AND antisemitic, a two-fer!

    And Zod brings the homophobia because everything else is emptiness. Well done.

    Just another day on the internet.

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    1. The Reality Community, don't you know.

      It's so funny to read these bold, "freethinking" atheist boys go all blue stocking when they've got nothing else.

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    2. If you two get together you almost have a thought. Almost. It must be nice to be so blissfully ignorant as you two chuckleheads. Hopefully Maine will one day get public education.

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    3. Actually as a matter of fact, Maine, as part of the Massachusetts Bay Colony, instituted mandatory public education in the 1640s, before any other place that would become a state. So, you're ignorant as always, atheist sockpuppet.

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    4. And, Simps-Zod, your knowledge of both science and history is pretty much non-existent as is your knowledge of anything but pop kulcha of the dumbest kind.

      I've been reading with increasing interest the rise of Christianity in the wreckage of Chinese Communism, apparently a lot of Chinese intellectuals have concluded that both the communism (you can read materialist atheism there and it works as well) which undergirded what might turn into the most murderous political regime in history and the Confucianism that undergirded the imperial system are both inadequate and that Christianity is a viable alternative. It does have everything needed to create egalitarian democracy, something which materialism will never have, a moral obligation to treat people well and to act responsibly and with respect to rights and with justice. Materialism can't produce that. Atheism can't.

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  11. By the way, I hate autocorrect. "Smithing." Good grief. God as cosmic blacksmith. Maybe it just has a sense of humor.

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  12. Being "insulted" by Zod reminds me of Molly Ivins' description of a critic: like being gummed by a newt.

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