- And speaking of Mae West, Sparkles, did you know that Salvador Dali did an amazing portrait of her?
https://goo.gl/images/KYYUQh
Of course, I have no doubt that Dali is one of those genius artists that you inexplicably feel superior to.
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Oh, Simps, you really think I didn't know about that picture? Maybe if he'd done one of you it would be a trompe l'oeil of a public toilet. Actually, someone should do one or Trump like that, they could call it Trump L'oo.
Update: I'm asked what Frank Zappa said about pop music critics, like Simps. -
Rock journalism is people who can't write, interviewing people who can't talk, for people who can't read.
Simps and the people who take what he says seriously would fit right into that complex.
Update 2: Stupy, I don't mind toying with you on issues like Dali or Cocteau but I'm not going to post you on important posts, anymore. You are trivial and a distraction.
Update 2: Stupy, I don't mind toying with you on issues like Dali or Cocteau but I'm not going to post you on important posts, anymore. You are trivial and a distraction.
Update 3: Derbes is a very minor example of what happens when someone specializes in the STEM subjects without having much respect for other areas of knowledge, they can be as stupid as someone who specializes in fashion or pop music on anything that falls outside of their area of expertise. Sometimes they're not even that good at understanding their area of expertise. I can, currently, name three people who still post comments at Eschaton who aren't idiots, there might be one or two others, no more than that.
So Dali is in fact one of those genius artists you inexplicably feel superior to?
ReplyDeleteHoney, the only one in this conversation I'm confident in feeling superior to is you.
DeleteI'm not a painter, I don't even draw anymore. Dali was a master painter but the surrealist stuff is bull shit, it always was, it was not supposed to be intellectually substantial, it was anti-intellectual. It succeeded in that. I don't care about it. Once the joke was told, it got old.
Hyman Bloom, on the other hand, is an ocean instead of a surface.
"I had a conversation with someone
ReplyDeleteabout [Salvadore] Dali recently, we both agreed he was more the kind of artist
you're interested in when you're a teenager than grown up. "....
Your conversations with the voices in your head are always fascinating, Sparkles.
Actually, he was sitting across the table from me, we were cutting up apples.
DeleteI know you probably don't know anyone who has a life of the mind, anyone with one would avoid you, but some of us don't have that lacking in our lives.
You have a life of the mind?
ReplyDeleteHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Seriously -- HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Seriously -- voices in your head are not a life of the mind. They're a sign of psychosis.
If you had one you'd have been able to read that I attributed one to the person I was talking to.
DeleteJust how many times did they do the old peer-advancement thing instead of making you repeat a grade till you gained appropriate reading proficiency? They were obviously really lax about that in your early years.
"I attributed one to the person I was talking to."
ReplyDeleteAnd we're supposed to find an assertion like that from a preposterous crackpot credible?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anyone who can read can look at the comment I said that in, above. Well, anyone who can read and doesn't have your impairment. So, pretty much anyone who reads this blog. You don't read, you skim.
DeleteI think the word "attributed" confused him.
ReplyDeleteMost words seem to.
I think he'd probably evoke "the Zeitgeist" to explain his reading method, but only if he'd heard someone say it on TV or in a movie, recently. I think they might use the word in "Zelig".
DeleteSimps and the rest of the geniuses at Duncan's rump crowd at his rumpus room did more to persuade me that there was a stupid left than those of many other entities that display that. Though it took the past several years at such publications as The Nation, In These Times, and such lefty media as The Young Turks and Democracy Now! to really tell me how seriously stupid and irresponsible it is. I read an article Katrina Vanden Heuvel wrote about how wonderful it was, the rise of the "secular" in the affairs of the nation from back in 2009, I can't find disconfirmation of my suspicion that hostility to religion is one of the major signs of membership in the stupid left. I suspect it's to the stupid left as racism is to the stupid right.
Gotta have something to hate, else how do you know who you are?
Delete"Surrealism was based on some rather silly notions of early 20th century psychology that have been junked. It is intellectually trivial."
ReplyDeleteNo, actually Surrealism is funny. That's why you don't get it.
Simelsims might be, surrealism was an ideological program that issued a manifesto and which was adopted on its basis, certainly by Dali, a friend of the author of the manifesto and others in his close circle.
Deletehttp://www.exquisitecorpse.com/assets/manifesto_of_surrealism.pdf
Boy, even the training in the humanities you got at Cornflake College was second rate. No wonder you ended up being you.
If you don't think "The Persistence of Memory" is funny, you're an even bigger dolt than I previously assumed.
ReplyDeleteIt's pretty hilarious for you, Simple Simels, to bring up "Persistence of Something You Don't Experience Because You Are Mentally Incapable Of Accurate Mentation Due To Persistence Of Mendacity."
DeleteI believe that at the time he painted that picture, he hadn't hammed it up for the idiots like you. That was a later phenomenon well after surrealism had stopped being a fad and he'd become a media celebrity for profit. Interestingly, some of his best work dates from after that started. I think he did his silly stuff for the celebrity but he couldn't stand to not do real work, he was that serious an artist.
I believe he was involved with Garcia Lorca, perhaps having a sexual relationship with him at that time. You, no doubt, would hold that Bodas de Sangre and La Casa de Bernarda Alba are a hoot, too. That is if you know of their existence. I don't believe they did a broadway musical though I believe operas may have been composed on both.
You are more like the asses who adopted surrealism as a temporary fad, especially in France, before so many of them went on to later fads in the 1930s, including fascism and red fascism. In fact, Andre Breton held that Dali, who went fascist, couldn't be held to have continued to be a surrealist on that basis. What he thought of the murder of his former friend, perhaps lover, by Franco and his thugs might be interesting to know but not enough for me to look it up.
No doubt you find that to fall in the ROFLAYAO territory.
Oh god, not another tedious episode of "Sparky Says We Can't Enjoy Art by Artists Who Led Less Than Admirable Lives."
ReplyDeleteWhen did I tell you you couldn't like Dali's stuff if you wanted to.
DeleteWhat I pointed out is that surrealism was a real artistic ideology which was taken seriously by those who adopted it.
Your superficiality is so like the superficiality of those on the far right, your intellectual conception of the arts is to trivialize them out of any meaning or importance. No wonder you love crap, it's so much easier than thinking but so much more stultifying.
What I did was show you don't know what you're talking about because you are a superficial idiot who talks to other superficial idiots who know nothing outside of a limited number of labels and conventionalized points of view which have no point and are merely learned by rote to be regurgitated as some kind of club membership. Only your club is of the ship of fools on the left, from which nothing important will ever come.
And btw, if you don't think Man Ray's metronome....
ReplyDeletehttps://www.google.com/search?hl=en&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1660&bih=1022&q=man+ray+metronome&oq=man+ray+metronome&gs_l=img.3...1128.10287.0.11126.18.18.0.0.0.0.86.1161.17.17.0....0...1.1.64.img..1.10.701.0..0j35i39k1j0i5i30k1j0i8i30k1j0i30k1j0i24k1.0.bxOvsyVALPo#imgrc=yJ0Q7oqPN-BkHM:
...is funny, you're an even bigger dolt than I thought you were when I posted about Dali.
I don't know it and I don't care about it. I wonder what Man Ray meant it to be and how successful he was in eliciting the response to it that he intended but not enough to look.
DeletePompous, depressingly literal minded and a perishing snob is no way to go through life, son.
ReplyDeleteAre you capable of typing the word "snob" without "perishing" immediately preceding it? Your sense of style is tedious.
Delete"son" Simps, you don't have and never will have what it takes for me to feel condescended to, my slightest respect.
"When did I tell you you couldn't like Dali's stuff if you wanted to."
ReplyDeleteIn your post at 11:05.
Quote me as having said that "you couldn't like Dali's stuff if you wanted to" in my words saying that.
DeleteSo you really don't understand the point you were otherwise clearly making?
ReplyDeleteThe Doltishness Meter just went off the scale.
Back it up, Simps. It should be easy if you, as always, weren't lying, you claim that the comment where I said that is right there above. Only I never said that an idiot like you couldn't like whatever you found amusing in your superficiality if you wanted to. I expressed praise for several of the generas of Dali's work, the bread paintings, the Crucifixion pictures (one or so excepted) his landscapes, minus the extraneous junk in some of them. I would add some of his portraiture, he was a fine painter and draughtsman, he was, though, a piece of shit and his public persona, mounted for making money out of the superficial and stupid, was stupid and superficial.
DeleteYou are an ignoramus who embodies Frank Zappa's assessment of pop music critics. Only other ignoramuses fall for your act, it buts the shit out of you that I'm not one of them.
Oh bite me. This "We Can't Like Art by Artists Who Led Less Than Admirable Lives" is one of your most tedious hobby horses. See: Stein, Gertrude.
ReplyDeleteNo go try to weasel out of something else, like your claim that I only like music by white guys who ripped off their black betters and made millions.
A. I wouldn't bite you because I'd be afraid what is wrong with you might be catching.
DeleteB. You claimed that I said something in my comment above at 11:05, when challenged to quote the words that said what you claim I did, you didn't do it because, of course, you're lying about me having said that.
C. Now, having been exposed by the challenge to your claim as being a liar, you claim that I've said that repeatedly when I never did. I have said that learning that Shaw was a particularly depraved proto-Nazi starting in 1910 and continuing during the period when he approved of the mass murders of Stalin and the one that Hitler was obviously mounting, I couldn't find his plays amusing anymore. If you want to yuck it up with people like Shaw and his fellow admirer of Hitler, Gertrude Stein, you're free to do so. That you are both morally bereft and intellectually depraved by your choices is not a great surprise. I didn't claim you weren't free to do that if you wanted to.
I do find it hilarious that you would feel the need to have my permission to keep on liking Hitler's fan boys and gals which you obviously want to (though in Shaw's case, it would be not his work but the derived Broadway musical, or, more likely, the movie of it) my refusal to give my approval isn't the same thing as disapproval, it certainly isn't a prohibition.
Oh, and, for the record, I doubt your knowledge of Gertrude Stein extends much farther than knowing who she is purported to have been, a rich old lesbian who collected pictures and wrote crap considered very moderny and advanced. I doubt your knowledge of her actual words extends much past "rose is a rose...". I could sympathize with someone who, as I tried to, tried to read her and found it was fucking stupid and tedious and gave up at about page 53, but I don't think you ever did that. You're too lazy and stupid.
Sparky: "I doubt your knowledge..."
ReplyDeleteDonald Trump: "Many people say..."
Oh, do go through the Simelsian filter that turns those two phrases into the same meaning.
DeleteSeriously, Simels, you are showing signs of dementia. Your best friend won't level with you but I will. Do you have a history of heavy drinking? You remind me of some of the worst drunks I've encountered. But mostly while they were still drinking.
How's the hillbilly heroin treating you, Sparkles?
DeleteNot treating me at all.
DeleteFrom what I can see online, Maine's opioid epidemic increased 26.1% in the most recent year's report, New York Cities, 41%. "Hillbilly heroin," ha.
I wasn't asking about Maine, you hick nitwit, I was asking about you.
DeleteWell, I doubt anyone but an idiot would mistake me as a hillbilly, which explains everything about your question.
DeleteBetween the two of us, Simps, you're the rube.
And the voices in your head begin singing Prince's LETS GO CRAZY in Esperanto.
ReplyDeleteSimps, the only thing that's more ridiculous than an obvious liar it's an obvious liar who tries everything his little mind can come up with to try to change the subject.
DeleteI notice that a lot of the traffic here is from Eschaton, so your buddies are watching me kick your ass around the block.
To paraphrase Darth Vader, your preening narcissism and lack of self-awareness are troubling.
ReplyDeleteSays the personification of every "You're so stupid" joke ever told.
DeleteAnd BTW, Sparkles, although the Surrealists were really a hoot -- please see Cocteau's BLOOD OF A POET --
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nGS5AsqJWg
-- the guys who were really a riot were the Dadaists.
If you knew how many ways your comment shows that you know less than shit about Jean Cocteau, his artistic identity, his reactionary and dishonorable political identity, his work, etc. you'd go sit in a warm bath and open a vein. Not that I'm not encouraging you in that line of thought but your ignorance is obvious to anyone who does know something about him.
DeleteI'd go on but it's pointless. You are ineducable, you don't value reality or truth or even facts. You've got your lies, that's your art form.
Let me guess -- you're trying to tell me that Cocteau was gay?
ReplyDeleteHOLY SHIT -- WHO KNEW????
That's the best you can do, Simps, try to imply a long out of the closet gay man would be gay baiting Jean Cocteau? Boy, you're even more ignorant of him than I'd estimated.
DeleteThe resistance had reason to despise Cocteau, so did the anti-Nazi side. Naw, I'm not going into details, throwing pearls to swine is pointless.
Sparky -- seriously. Why are you posting my stuff? You look like an idiot, and frankly I wouldn't even bother to try to annoy you if you were smart enough to ban me.
ReplyDeletePlease -- ban me. Save yourself. You have to do it. If not for me, your site would look even more astoundingly stupid, but no more so than any other site without some smarter than you guy making fun of you. It would just be you and your moron BFF the Theologian.
Ban me -- please. Save yourself.
:-)
Simps, I post your stuff because it's so stupid. No one would believe me if they didn't see it.
DeleteSimps, you're not much smarter than Tlaz and she's such an idiot that even when he was quoted with both attribution and a link, she declared Richard Feynmann was a scientific illiterate. Actually, I don't think you're much smarter than she is, you're doing pretty much the same thing here.
I post your comments because it suits my purpose. If you don't like it apparently you're too stupid to realize if you didn't make them I couldn't post them.
Oh please, keep posting me. I was trying to help you, but if you're too stupid to take my help, vaya con dios, you stupid shithead.
ReplyDeleteYou do help me, you provide me with an example of the kind of things that destroyed American liberalism.
DeleteYou beg me to ban you yet you post, by my counting, a half dozen things I sent to the Spam file because you can't stand being ignored. The same reason that Dali painted his tediously surreal pictures - well, money had a lot to do with that, too - and staged his public antics. I could stop doing this tomorrow or do it under an assumed name, you can't resist the desire to get attention.