Friday, August 12, 2016

The Exchange With The Masked Boy Continues

Bobs_Vendetta  Anthony_McCarthy • 7 hours ago
OKay, I get that you will go on pretending that you are progressive, instead of being a neoliberal neocon, while putting down actual progressives. That's how Clinton Democrats roll. We've been seeing that for years. But you can take your lie about the left and "their affection for foreign dictators who are not democratically elected" and stuff it in the hole left by the integrity you long since abandoned.

For the Senate: Bernie Sanders, Jeff Merkley, Tom Udall, Elizabeth Warren, Brian Schatz, a few other possibilities I don't know well.
For the House: Peter Welch, Keith Ellison, Barbara Lee, Peter DeFazio, Jim McGovern, Raul Grijalva, Zoe Lofgren, and no doubt several others with whom I am unfamiliar.
For President: Bernie Sanders. Against all odds, and despite the opposition of the entire Democratic Party establishment, he likely would have won if not for widespread voter suppression which targeted his supporters and widespread election fraud in states with electronic voting machines and no paper trail.


Anthony_McCarthy  Bobs_Vendetta • in 3 minutes
You will notice that, with his change of registration to run for president, all of the above are Democrats who have endorsed Hillary Clinton for president, which would, by your silly act of definition, make them "neo-liberal neocons". They are all "Clinton Democrats".

Bernie Sanders didn't get the nomination, he lost it by more than three million votes.

My political positions put me to the left of Bernie Sanders, I would certainly have liked him to have had a chance of being elected, I would have preferred Elizabeth Warren to have been president but she, realistically, knew that in the circumstances at hand, she would not likely have won the nomination and she would have had less of a chance at being elected.

I am also far to the left of you and the play leftists because the only real leftist politics is done through gaining political office, changing laws and policies for the better, implementing those making actual improvements in lives and appointing people to the judiciary who will not undermine or destroy that progress. Reality is real and it is what defines the actual limits of who is the most left at any given time. Only real progress in making lives better on a basis that can be sustained is what a real left is defined by. Play-lefties never do that, they are merely the most lefty in the room in their fantasy, not reality. Where they have exerted themselves in elections, they have lost those, which is why such people only really gain control of governments by anti-democratic means.

2 comments:

  1. I stopped reading once I learned that Bernie wuz robbed!

    Please. Conspiracy theories that would shame Alex Jones are required to make that possible. Might as well argue it was stolen by UN black helicopters who also took away guns in the night with giant magnets. I mean, how ignorant do you have to be?

    Of course "neoliberal neocons" was a tell, too. When in doubt, cliches and labels are your friends.

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  2. Belatedly realizing I'm old enough to remember when LBJ was called a "war criminal" (the preferred epithet of "leftists" and "progressives" who don't like Hillary). I suppose we'd have been better off with Goldwater? A man who seriously and soberly conjectured that low yield nuclear weapons could be used to defoliate the jungles of Vietnam?

    Yeah, that would have been much better than LBJ.....

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