Monday, October 30, 2023

The ACLU is about the worst bargain American liberals have ever bought into - Another Answer

SO YOU WANT MORE EVIDENCE that the "civil liberties" racket is the game of affluent white men who went to elite training grounds of privilege and making stupid arguments on their behalf?  How about the three who wrote the ACLU brief saying that it would be terrible, just terrible, if judges didn't keep Trump from inciting violence, threatening witnesses and court staff and polluting the jury pool?

Brett Max Kaufman - Stanford University and the University of Texas School of Law

Ben Wizner - Harvard College, Harvard University, NYU School of Law

Brian Hauss - Yale University and Harvard Law School

In the NPR story on the ACLU siding with a man whose words are known to incite his cult to threaten and intimidate and commit violence it said,

The ACLU team acknowledged a "serious risk" that Trump could inspire his political supporters to violence. But their court filing said the First Amendment doesn't give the judge license to gag him.

"The mere fact that others have threatened actions against trial participants after hearing Defendant's words is not enough," the ACLU said.

Seriously, how stupid can you be to graduate from their schools?   How stupid are judges and "justices" to buy their bullshit?   If they were to argue the famous case that Holmes jr. imagined, a man shouting "Fire" in a crowded theater, they'd claim that he was blameless and wasn't responsible for all those people who trampled others to death to escape.  That he had a "First Amendment" right to say whatever he wanted to.  That IS how stupid their claim is.
 

In short, until someone gets maimed or killed, they've got no problem with a situation that risks the maiming and killing of witnesses, court staff and others and peddling lies to the jury pool.  AND THEY HOLD THE ONE WHO INCITED THEM HAS NO CULPABILITY IN INCITING THEM.   No doubt that if Trump's goons were brought up on charges, once Trump's known attempts to incite them were brought to trial, the same ACLU assholes would demand that a link to Trump be proved beyond any possible rational standard of judging that to have happened.

"Free speech" and "freedom of the press" is an ideological absolute with these assholes, the ACLU and the "civil liberties" racket have learned they can sucker liberals with those slogans and they can get big money from the media and others with a financial interest in being allowed to lie with impunity and push even the most dangerous lies.  They have no problem with the weaponization of the media, the internet, hate-talk, etc. because allowing that is in their financial and professional interest and they figure it's no skin off of them.  That's the case with all of these "civil liberties" outfits.

Their ass-covering with allegedly aiding civil rights efforts and other such things which are of vital interest to liberals is more than wiped out by their other advocacy, especially their enabling exactly what they will smarmily admit is a "serious risk" even as that risk has resulted in more than half a century of fascist ascendancy in the United States, the reinvigoration of our indigenous form of fascism, white supremacy, its allies in imported ideologies such as Nazism, and Republican-fascism WHICH HAS ALREADY STACKED THE SUPREME COURT WITH THOSE WHO ARE DESTROYING ALL OF THE PROGRESS MADE TOWARDS EQUALITY IN THOSE FIFTY YEARS OF "FREE SPEECH" "FREE PRESS" ABSOLUTISM.  And much of what has been done since the Civil War.  

The ACLU is about the worst bargain American liberals have ever bought into.  Its Ivy-League and Ivy-equivalent lawyers and staff aren't so stupid as to not realize what they enable and support with their work and they certainly haven't missed that their clients are the ones who have done so much to damage minorities, Women, LGBTQ+ People, the environment, etc.  They simply don't care because their ideology and pose of Bill of Rights purity matters more to them than the lives and rights of People, the environment, and everything else their advocacy has damaged.  It's clear in this latest filing THAT THEY DON'T CARE FOR THE INTEGRITY OF THE RULE OF LAW, EVEN IN THE FACE OF A NEARLY SUCCESSFUL FASCIST PUTSCH AGAINST THE VERY CONSTITUTION THEY CLAIM TO REVERE.

That's how truly vile the "civil liberties" racket is.  Liberals should dump it and declare the truth, they're on the side of the oligarchs and plutocrats, which is no surprise because so many of them are oligarchs, themselves.

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