Who did Simps mean was a Holocaust survivor? Wilber Ross?
Magneto?
I didn't know Magneto from The Powerpuff Girls until I just looked him up. Superhero comics were the stupidest of a stupid genre. Figures one of the "Brain Trusters" would make an argument about history out of a comic book character who wasn't created until 1963, not to mention so vulgar as to make a claim about the Holocaust on that basis. And it figures that Freki "aka JR" would agree with it. While she's not as stupid as Stupy, she's as dishonest.
As the creation of Stan Lee and Jack Kirby the character wouldn't know anything they didn't and neither of them were Holocaust survivors. As people who did lame-assed comic books, neither of them would seem to have a history of scholarly research. Though Lee is apparently still alive so maybe someone should ask him instead of Stupy's ass for the answer.
It wouldn't have been a stupider thing to say if he'd meant Wilber Ross. Stupid is what they do at Duncan's "Brain Trust".
Update: Well, if they want to get all Darwinistic about it, how many of the huge-brained (in their own minds) Eschatonian Brain Trusters have so much as had one offspring? I know some have but some of the worst cases don't seem to have. I don't believe Duncan has spawned, or Simps or many of the others ever mentioning offspring. Something they shared with many of the most ardent Darwinists, like Galton and Leonard Darwin. Maybe they're evidence that whatever trait they share in common that leads them to Eschaton is a maladaptation.
If "eschaton" were a verb it would mean wasting time telling each other that you're smarter than anyone else while proving the opposite by saying stupid stuff you can't support. Being a snob has to fit in somewhere, too.
"I didn't know Magneto" -- Holocaust survivor -- " from The Powerpuff Girls until I just looked him up"
ReplyDeleteAnybody surprised by his ignorance?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dI7SEIKaKwE
The man who knows nothing much figures I, an adult, am supposed to be ashamed of not knowing a character created for 12-year-olds.
ReplyDeleteDopey, "Magneto" isn't a Holocaust survivor, he's a make believe superhero. His creators weren't Holocaust survivors, I don't see any evidence they knew much of anything about it, probably no more than the nothing you know about it. Of course, for you it's all about as real as a comic book, your idea of reality.
I can't say I'm proud of not knowing who "Magneto" "is" but I'm certainly not embarrassed to have avoided the crap the character was invented for.
Is anybody surprised by his pride in his ignorance?
ReplyDeleteBeing proud of ones ignorance is something which I will admit you've got me topped on.
DeleteI freely proclaim it, other than knowing such a thing was published and the little I've found out about it today, I am glad I never spent more time on X-Men than that. It's not exactly pride, ignorance isn't an accomplishment, if Stupy had ever accomplished anything he might know that. Or if he'd ever known anything worth knowing.
Says the hick piano teacher.
ReplyDeleteSo, that's how they say, "I got nuthin'" in the greater lesser NYC area.
DeleteI looked it up, Stupy, it wasn't even the Jewish guys who invented Magneto who turned him Jewish and a Holocaust survior, it was a Brit about three decades after they invented the chracter. Apparently the publisher flipped out when the Brit made the serial killer a Jew and they had to find some way to mitigate the anti-semitism of it.
I won't accuse you of generating irony though it's pretty clear you degenerate into it out of habit.
You do know that Jack Kirby and Stan Lee, who created Magneto, were the descendents of immigrant Jews who grew up on the lower East Side who had some experience with European Christian anti-Semitism? Right?
ReplyDeleteYou do know that, right?
Oh wait -- you don't give a shit.
Shithead, I never read it or, since you never read it either, saw the movie like you did, THEY WEREN'T THE ONES WHO DECIDED THAT MAGNETO WAS A "HOLOCAUST SURVIVOR". IT WAS A BRIT WHO TOOK OVER WRITING THE CRAP AFTER THEHY INVENTED HIM. AND HE WASN'T EVEN JEWISH UNTIL THE PUBLISHERS GOT FREAKED OUT OVER POSSIBLE ANTISEMITIC IMPLICATIONS OF THE CHARACTER AS CHANGED BY THE BRIT.
DeleteBefore Chris Claremont established that Magneto was a Holocaust survivor, no, there weren’t really any hints that Magneto was Jewish.
Once Claremont fleshed out Magneto’s origin with the Holocaust backstory, he never really specifically said Magneto was Jewish. But he did write scenes where Magneto interacted with other Jewish Holocaust survivors and Magneto also took particular remorse in the idea that he may have killed Kitty Pryde and how he’d become what he hated most (another Jewish character, so them both being Jewish adds even more to that scene).
Then in the early 90s, Marvel freaked out over the idea that one of their major villains was Jewish and how that could potentially be viewed as Anti-Semitism. They immediately started backtracking. It was revealed that Magneto’s real name was Erik Lehnsherr and he came from a Romani family. As Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch were Romani as well and another retcon a few years prior established that Magneto was their father (Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch’s parentage has been retconned several times, Magneto was the second or third retcon and has since been retconned again), it probably made sense at the time to establish Magneto as having Romani origins.
In the late 90s, Marvel changed their mind again. In X-Men #72, Joe Kelly wrote a story in which Sabra, a mutant and an agent with Israel’s Mossad, discovered that Magneto wasn’t actually Romani at all and his real name wasn’t Erik Lehnsherr. The entire Lehnsherr identity and history was fabricated by a forger named Georg Odekirk. Magneto himself confirmed this because in that same issue, he went to Odekirk and killed him for not covering his tracks better and stated that the Lehnsherr identity was never real.
https://www.quora.com/Was-there-ever-any-hints-that-Magneto-was-Jewish-to-begin-with-before-his-origins-were-revealed-in-the-Marvel-comics
Which I suspect is as much news to you as it was to me, only I never cared either way.
Oh, and BTW -- Jack Kirby and Stan Lee were genuinely great creative artists. Unlike you.
ReplyDeleteThere's a good word for what they produced, "schlock".
DeleteBTW -- you also know that Magneto was art-directed from one of the Nazis from ALEXANDER NEVSKY right?
ReplyDeleteNo, you don't, you ignorant hick shithead.
You'll have to translate that into something more like English. What does it mean?
DeleteBy the way, other than the music that Prokofiev wrote for the movie, it was absurd garbage. Aaron Copland had better luck, at least. Our Town has its problems, poor Thornton had a hard time ending things, but it isn't propaganda for one of histories worst mass murderers.
DeleteGoogle is your friend, moron.
ReplyDeleteGoogle didn't type the incoherence. You did. I can't respond to it until you tell me what you meant.
Delete"other than the music that Prokofiev wrote for the movie, it was absurd garbage."
ReplyDeleteAnd if you had a different face, you'd be cute.
God, you're an incoherent moronic schmuck.
The movie was shit, though apparently I saw it and you didn't.
DeleteI figured out what you meant when you said, "Magneto was art-directed from one of the Nazis from ALEXANDER NEVSKY." You meant he copied it. Though I'd want to hear it from him and not from someone else. Unless he said that's what he did there's no way of knowing if he did. I wonder what the inspiration of that costume in the movie was. Though not enough to bother trying to look it up.
Do you like to pretend you're an intellectual by saying "art-directed" instead of "copied"? That would be your bull-shit career in "criticism". I'll bet you say Duncan "curates" your lies at his blog, don't you. And you "auteur" them, don't you.
Sweet Jeebus on a piece of challah toast. Do you not get that Jewish kids of Lee and Kirby's generation went to see ALEXANDER NEVSKY and were profoundly influenced by the visual look of the movie? Not to mention the Jewish film composers of the same generation -- Elmer Bernstein, Jerry Goldsmith, et al -- who were knocked out by the Prokofiev score? God, you're a fucking moron.
ReplyDeleteListen, asshole, there's no way to know if Kirby - THE GUY WHO DREW IT - even saw the movie unless he said he did. You can't figure that out by his ethnicity, idiot, HE HAS TO HAVE SEEN THE MOVIE TO HAVE SEEN IT. Elmer Bernstein or Jerry Goldsmith couldn't watch it for him, HE HAD TO HAVE SEEN IT HIMSELF AND ADMITTED TO HAVING COPIED THE COSTUME.
DeleteBring me the quote from the guy, unless you can do that, you've got nuthin'.
If I were to judge those people by sharing an ethnicity with you I'd have to conclude they were total idiots.
Keep digging, shithead.
ReplyDeleteAh, your other way of saying "I've got nuthin'". That would go with all of the nuthin' in your and the collective "Brain Trusts'" minds.
DeleteDo I get to tell everyone that you share the acts and thoughts of Sheldon Adelson, now? I mean, if you figure that Elmer Bernstein could see the movie and copy the costume on Jack Kirby's behalf on the strenght of them both being Jewish. I know you and Midge Decter have a lot in common, you and her and her hubby and Schulmit Reinharz and Irv Kristol . . .
Sure -- saying that Jack Kirby was influenced by visuals from Eisenstein is like saying that Sheldon Adelson is a cool guy.
ReplyDeleteTo paraphrase the late great Warren Zevon, who I'm sure you feel superior to despite the fact that he was a great artist, enjoy every pastrami sandwich.
And here we have that tactic of Steve Simels I pointed out last week, of him trying to change the meaning of what was said so he can avoid addressing what was said.
DeleteClaiming that Jack Kirby saw a movie and copied it because, you claim, two other Jewish guys must have seen the movie (and do we even know that?) because they're all Jewish would be like me saying that you and Sheldon Adelson were assholes (which you both are) and that I can blame you for what he does because you're both Jewish.
I have a feeling if Warren Zevon were reading this he'd have told you to leave him out of your feeble attempts to get out of the sling you put your own ass in.
You drop more names than appear in most phone books in most dial up areas.
Oh fuck off. You have no idea what you're talking about. Period.
ReplyDeleteAnd here it finally dawns on Simps that he's made an ass of himself, once again.
DeleteCheer up, Simps, no one from Duncan's is going to read it, it would be too much like work.
BTW, Jack Kirby wasn't Irish Catholic, despite his name. He was actually a Jew named Jacob Kurtzberg; which is a cultural difference you couldn't possibly comprehend.
ReplyDeleteYou fucking idiot, I knew he was Jewish BECAUSE I LOOKED HIM UP BEFORE I EVEN MENTIONED HIM.
DeleteI think if he were still alive he'd have known you'd made an ass out of yourself within your first comment here. You'd have to be as stupid as a Simels to not see that.
Sure thing, pal. Everybody supports you over this.
ReplyDeleteIf by "everybody" you mean you mean Simps and the Simpletons At Duncleton's I'd only worry if you agreed with me.
DeleteThat's one thing, Stupy, if you check your facts and you make logical arguments from those, you don't have to worry unless someone refutes you with more facts and better logic.
You could have produced a quote from Jack Kirby saying he saw the movie and copied the guy's mask WHICH BY THE WAY, YOU IDIOT, WAS A MOVIE ABOUT ALEXANDER NEVSKY WHO DIED 656 YEARS BEFORE THERE WERE ANY NAZIS, I'd have conceded that point. I knew you'd never seen the movie. It was junk though Prokofiev's music was up to his quality.
"You could have produced a quote from Jack Kirby saying he saw the movie and copied the guy's mask WHICH BY THE WAY, YOU IDIOT, WAS A MOVIE ABOUT ALEXANDER NEVSKY WHO DIED 656 YEARS BEFORE THERE WERE ANY NAZIS,"
ReplyDeleteWow. Seriously, wow.
Let me explain how time works again, Simps. The Nazi party was founded in a year we call 1919. Alexander Nevsky died in a year we call 1263. You can find out how many years before the year we call 1919 that was by subtracting the smaller number from the bigger number. You'd better use a calculator. You might have one on your computer or you can get BG to help you put the numbers in. Do I have to explain a number line to you?
DeleteOh, and the smaller number means that 1263 happened before 1919. Time goes from before to later.
DeleteYou're quoting the death of the actual historical Alexander Nevsky as if it has something to do with Nazi Germany or the Eisentein move??
ReplyDeleteGood fucking grief.
Do you get help saying stupid stuff or do you come up with all of this on your own?
DeleteYOU ARE THE ONE WHO PUT A NAZI IN ALEXANDER NEVSKY,
steve simelsAugust 7, 2018 at 4:45 PM
BTW -- you also know that Magneto was art-directed from one of the Nazis from ALEXANDER NEVSKY right?
No, you don't, you ignorant hick shithead.
THIS HICK JUST POINTED OUT THAT THERE WERE NO NAZIS IN THE MOVIE.
Admit it, Simps, you never saw the movie and didn't know that.
That guy who pointed out that if they'd called "Braveheart" "Wallace And Gromit" and put a Plasticine dog in it and it wouldn't have been any more historically inaccurate than it was must have had someone like you in mind.