"It seems to me that to organize on the basis of feeding people or righting social injustice and all that is very valuable. But to rally people around the idea of modernism, modernity, or something is simply silly. I mean, I don't know what kind of a cause that is, to be up to date. I think it ultimately leads to fashion and snobbery and I'm against it."
Jack Levine: January 3, 1915 – November 8, 2010
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Tuesday, December 25, 2018
Olivier Messiaen - Vingt Regards Sur L'Enfant Jesus - XIII Noel
Yvonne Loriod, piano.
I find this video so incredibly moving, the shared experience between the composer and his wife and primary interpreter, the bells at the end.
Short version: You -- a guy who usually never fails to dismiss works of art because of the moral failings of the artists who made them (most recently, you went after "Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas" because Judy Garland was a drug addict) just posted a video of an admittedly wonderful piece of religious music by Carlo Gesualdo.
Of course, Gesualdo not only murdered twice as many people as Phil Spector (who you, unlike most normal people, dissmiss as an artist) but also, unlike Spector, got away with it.
Because, religion, probably. :-)
You never fail to live down to my expectations, Sparkles. Kudos!!!
I never said anything about the morals of the guys who wrote HYAMLC, all I said is they wrote a song I don't like. Unlike you I don't mistake my not liking something with the moral failure of the creator, you're mixing up the way you don't think with the way I think. We've been over that before. All I said about the singing of Judy Garland in the putrid, sacrine movie was that I wondered what drugs she was on while she was filming it, sort of like how I wonder which of the degenerate scenes in Woody Allen's movies depict actual degeneracy he's committed and which might reside, so far, in his imagination. I don't blame Judy Garland for being addicted, it was the studio bosses who got her and Micky Rooney addicted to drugs - he said that, himself, and how it had blighted his life. I don't blame drug addicts for their addiction, it does no one any good. Having actual drug addicts in my close family, I've seen how insidious that is and how much of it starts with Big Pharma, that's where I put my blame.
You don't know how many people Phil Spector or Carlo Gesualdo killed, for all you know either one of them may have killed many more people than we know about. I know which one pretended to have written songs he didn't and which one produced something better than crap. And which one didn't.
I posted this because I knew you'd pick up no the one and only thing idiots like you know about Gesualdo. If he hadn't murdered his wife and her lover you'd probably know no more about him than you do Giuseppe de Laradona.
"You don't know how many people Phil Spector or Carlo Gesualdo killed, for all you know either one of them may have killed many more people than we know about."
Spector murdered one person and went to jail for it. Gesualdo killed his wife and her lover and skated. You could look it up. It's called history.
Seriously, we don't know how many people Phil Spector killed? What kind of post-modern Trumpian there is no truth bullshit is that, Sparky?
I'm being serious now -- it's obvious you're under a lot of stress because of personal family issues, and I sympathize. But you clearly need help. Please seek it.
Gesualdo wasn't charged because the authority capable of bringing charges against him said as a nobleman he didn't commit a crime by murdering his wife and her lover when he caught them In flagrante delicto. You can regret the state of the law in that time at that place but whatyagonnado, Bunky?
How do you know either of them didn't kill more people than we know about? I'm not making any kind of accusation I'm just pointing out that your argument is based on assumptions that can't be demonstrated to be true. That's call logic.
You're the one making claims he can't support, not me. Nothing I said in this argument is open to rational challenge. That leaves irrational challenge, what you replace reason with.
You answer that question that way and think I'm the one who needs help? I wonder if anyone has ever come up with a term for that practice, of trying to get back off the branch you argued yourself onto by coming up with some vulgar, juvenile cliché that a smart 12-year-old boy would think was stupid. Something referring to you would be apt.
So, how about it, Simps, answer the question with an answer instead of an evasion. How do you know how many people they killed that you don't know about?
Holy shit-- I just accessed a TV station in an alternate dimension and it has video footage of Gesualdo and Spector committing genocide. Millions of innocent dead!
I don't recall whose motto was Semper Idem, Always the same, perhaps a play on Elizabeth I, Semper Eadem, the feminine form. Your motto should be Semper Stultus. It's been a long time ago I did any Latin composition but I think it should mean "always stupid". Simels Stultus might do.
Ah, yes, Jerry Lewis lives on, in you. And, by that I mean the one that Roger Ebert described in his review of Hardly Working, which is what your brain is.
Ah, I loves me some irony for Christmas.
ReplyDeleteShort version: You -- a guy who usually never fails to dismiss works of art because of the moral failings of the artists who made them (most recently, you went after "Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas" because Judy Garland was a drug addict) just posted a video of an admittedly wonderful piece of religious music by Carlo Gesualdo.
Of course, Gesualdo not only murdered twice as many people as Phil Spector (who you, unlike most normal people, dissmiss as an artist) but also, unlike Spector, got away with it.
Because, religion, probably. :-)
You never fail to live down to my expectations, Sparkles. Kudos!!!
I never said anything about the morals of the guys who wrote HYAMLC, all I said is they wrote a song I don't like. Unlike you I don't mistake my not liking something with the moral failure of the creator, you're mixing up the way you don't think with the way I think. We've been over that before. All I said about the singing of Judy Garland in the putrid, sacrine movie was that I wondered what drugs she was on while she was filming it, sort of like how I wonder which of the degenerate scenes in Woody Allen's movies depict actual degeneracy he's committed and which might reside, so far, in his imagination. I don't blame Judy Garland for being addicted, it was the studio bosses who got her and Micky Rooney addicted to drugs - he said that, himself, and how it had blighted his life. I don't blame drug addicts for their addiction, it does no one any good. Having actual drug addicts in my close family, I've seen how insidious that is and how much of it starts with Big Pharma, that's where I put my blame.
DeleteYou don't know how many people Phil Spector or Carlo Gesualdo killed, for all you know either one of them may have killed many more people than we know about. I know which one pretended to have written songs he didn't and which one produced something better than crap. And which one didn't.
I posted this because I knew you'd pick up no the one and only thing idiots like you know about Gesualdo. If he hadn't murdered his wife and her lover you'd probably know no more about him than you do Giuseppe de Laradona.
"You don't know how many people Phil Spector or Carlo Gesualdo killed, for all you know either one of them may have killed many more people than we know about."
ReplyDeleteSpector murdered one person and went to jail for it. Gesualdo killed his wife and her lover and skated. You could look it up. It's called history.
Seriously, we don't know how many people Phil Spector killed? What kind of post-modern Trumpian there is no truth bullshit is that, Sparky?
I'm being serious now -- it's obvious you're under a lot of stress because of personal family issues, and I sympathize. But you clearly need help. Please seek it.
Gesualdo wasn't charged because the authority capable of bringing charges against him said as a nobleman he didn't commit a crime by murdering his wife and her lover when he caught them In flagrante delicto. You can regret the state of the law in that time at that place but whatyagonnado, Bunky?
DeleteHow do you know either of them didn't kill more people than we know about? I'm not making any kind of accusation I'm just pointing out that your argument is based on assumptions that can't be demonstrated to be true. That's call logic.
You're the one making claims he can't support, not me. Nothing I said in this argument is open to rational challenge. That leaves irrational challenge, what you replace reason with.
"How do you know either of them didn't kill more people than we know about?"
ReplyDeleteHow do you know you can't catch a fart and paint it green?
Seriously, dude, you're losing it. Please seek help.
You answer that question that way and think I'm the one who needs help? I wonder if anyone has ever come up with a term for that practice, of trying to get back off the branch you argued yourself onto by coming up with some vulgar, juvenile cliché that a smart 12-year-old boy would think was stupid. Something referring to you would be apt.
DeleteSo, how about it, Simps, answer the question with an answer instead of an evasion. How do you know how many people they killed that you don't know about?
Holy shit-- I just accessed a TV station in an alternate dimension and it has video footage of Gesualdo and Spector committing genocide. Millions of innocent dead!
ReplyDeleteAnd you can't prove it's not true!!!! :-)
Seriously, Sparky. Seek help.
I don't recall whose motto was Semper Idem, Always the same, perhaps a play on Elizabeth I, Semper Eadem, the feminine form. Your motto should be Semper Stultus. It's been a long time ago I did any Latin composition but I think it should mean "always stupid". Simels Stultus might do.
DeleteBTW, giant Jihadist frogs are devouring people in Florida.
ReplyDeleteAnd if you don't believe it, when's the last time you got a phone call from Boca Raton, Sparky?
Ah, yes, Jerry Lewis lives on, in you. And, by that I mean the one that Roger Ebert described in his review of Hardly Working, which is what your brain is.
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