in the Trump cult because the main defect in them isn't intellectual, it's moral. They are an expression of vulgar materialist immorality and amorality, which end up being the same thing. Their inventiveness in coming up with excuses for Trump and his failure to deliver what he promised them - most of which they shouldn't have wanted if they were motivated by morality - proves that they have an intelligence detached from any sense that it's wrong to lie.
It's one of the stupidest ideas that "if only they knew" they'd abandon the Trump cult. It's not like they haven't seen the truth, it's that they have no sense of a moral obligation to reality or the truth. And they're hardly alone in that.
You're not wrong. But it is just as much an error as forgetting that moral defect isn't in every form of partisan politics.
ReplyDeleteDidn't VP Harris say she believed the allegations of Tara Reade, the woman who accused President of assaulting her? But then she was offered the role of running mate and...
You only halfway grasp the problem if you think there is something unique about Trump that other politicians and their sycophants don't posses.
I'm not familiar with her saying she believed the allegations of Tara Reade, if Joe Biden offered her the VP position after that it shows that Joe Biden is an understanding and forgiving man. There's all the difference in the world between temporarily believing something that's false and, then, when presented with more information changing your belief and what the Trump cultists do. And, for that matter, what the majority of the Republican-fascists in Congress do. To equate the two is inaccurate at best. I don't know of many Democratic politicians who have had such a cult, though I remember the mania over JFK which may have been close to that. In your other comment you mention Bill Clinton as the focus of such a cult, I would deny there was ever anything like one around him. The sins and crimes alleged against him and Hillary Clinton were investigated by several REPUBLICAN special prosecutors and REPUBLICAN LED Congressional and committees for literally decades and neither of them were found to have credibly been indicted for crimes. If there is something that is proved by the phenomenon of the pursuit of the Clintons, it is that the most obviously biased Republican campaigns against people can fail to produce indictments over decades and with many tens of millions of dollars of PUBLIC MONEY, not to mention the privately financed billionaire and millionaire efforts, that the American free press will still carry the lies about them. I have no respect for Bill Clinton and, in fact, didn't vote for him in 1996, but only because I knew he was going to win over Dole, I didn't vote for him because of him going along with Gingrich's attacks on support for the poor and destitute. I could have killed him for what he did in meeting improperly with Obama's AG during Hillary Clinton's campaign (not to mention my criticism of the AG for going along with the meeting) and likely costing his wife the election and us having to endure Trump.
DeleteThe Clintons are a part of history, I am certain neither of them will ever hold public office again. I have some respect for her, I have none for him. And, as I said, I voted for him.
You can find it with Google in about 30 seconds. Less if you have a good connection.
DeleteThe exact quote: "I believe [the accusers] and I respect them being able to tell their story and having the courage to do it."
Don't believe me. I encourage you to look it up for yourself.
I see Biden's crass history of opportunism and shifting positions in perfect sync with the political milieu to be a far more reasonable explanation. I can't see a man who'd take the sins of the parents out on a little girl to be all that forgiving when he's nothing to gain from it.
And let's let Hillary speak for herself on the Lewinsky incident. From the 'Washington Post,' January 27th, 1998 - "[Hillary Clinton] blamed allegations of sexual improprieties on a right-wing conspiracy that is trying to 'undo the results of two elections.'"
Right, just a conspiracy. By the Republican-Fascists.
I can see how you respect her, but I know too many people that went to Iraq. I know the parents of some who didn't come back.
And speaking of Bush/Cheney, I loved how the DNC, cult-like, suddenly pretended like he wasn't the Prince of Darkness when his daughter started criticizing Trump.
Partisan. Honest. Intelligent.
You can be two of the above, but never all three.
If you're insisting on pure integrity in politicians, I'd like an example of one who held onto an office long enough to pass beneficial legislation, or, in fact, a piece of that which wasn't had with compromise that wasn't any bit dirty. I deal in the reality that is available, not in some purity that isn't. That is, in my commenting on politics. I have noted here any number of times that the Scriptures are full of the investigation and confession of the experience of the Children of Israel within political systems and how, when they had the chance of something close to a pure system in the period of the Judges, they found that it wasn't how life here, on Earth worked. The best that can be hoped for under human administration is better, not perfection. That they came up with some of the best ideas of how to do that is, I think, due to their realism. And even then, as the prophetic books testify, it's hard to keep hold of that. I've become very interested in Franz Rosenzweig and his opposition to Zionism because he believed founding another Israel would entwine Jews in worldly corruption to an unacceptable extent. I think the history of modern Israel, as it has been lived out, shows his foresight in that. It went from a rather sullied idealism to military and expansionist fascism within my lifetime. It was inevitable considering that they would continually be under attack. The tragic irony is that, as Jacobo Timmerman noted, most of the antisemitism today is a reaction to the excesses of the state of Israel.
DeleteAmen. He is an avatar for their base ugliness.
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