Response To Another Comment

Oh, fuck off, you obtuse piece of shit. As you well know, I am on record (and have been for years) as saying that Netanyahu and his cabal are evil and have to go. Get back to me when you can say something similar about Hamas or the Palestinian's political leadership going back six decades or more.

I mean that Arafat guy was a freaking riot!!!

A. I did say something similar about Hamas and Hezbollah last week,  I said I didn't choose them or like them any more than I liked the Israeli government.   I am opposed to all violent, terrorism wielding and anti-democratic groups and authorities and governments,  I've never made any secret of that.

B. If you read more you might realize that Arafat has been dead for 20 years, almost to the day.   I'd recommend you expand your reading past recipes in the Sunday NYT and that one and only book you ever read about Nazi rule, even Shirer knew he needed to write a more complete one, though The Rise and Fall is probably longer than you can navigate outside of the world of swords and sorcery or 18th century bodice rippers. 

C.  The United States doesn't support the "leadership" of Palestinians, sending them arms and money and support for their genocidal military campaigns and it isn't demanded that the government of my country support them.  That is unlike the demand that it support Israel, right or wrong, something which may very well have had an impact on the 2024 election to the detriment of all except the fascist government of Israel.   I think the population of Israel is as suckered as those who voted for Trump even as he'll damage them and risk their lives. 

D.  Whether Hamas or Hezbollah really constitutes the leadership of the majority of Palestinians is an untested question, though I wouldn't doubt that after, especially this most recent, slaughter by Israel in Gaza that Hamas could do what it wouldn't risk trying before, win an election.   I have heard some claims that support for Hamas increased in the West Bank in the past year, so, well done, Israel.  Such is the consequence of Israeli policy and military actions as it keeps doing the same thing and expecting a different result.   The thing is, Simels, I can't express any doubt about the Likud-fascist coalition being what a majority of Israelis want BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN KEPT IN POWER ALMOST CONTINUALLY FOR NEARLY HALF A CENTURY BY ISRAELI VOTERS.   Israel has had a morally damaging effect on both those who live there and those they have been trying to destroy for more than seventy years, now.  Palestinians in Israel may have a vote, but it's a vote about as meaningful in terms of governance as the vote of LGBTQ+ voters in Utah.  And the law of Israel will keep it that way.

Doing the same thing over and over, expecting a different result, Israel may be in such a spiral of insanity but I don't have to accept that the United States should go down the drain with it. 

E. If you think the tactic of labeling anyone who opposes zionism and the Israeli state as antisemtic is going to keep working,  that's rapidly losing its effect.   That IHRA committee that rigged an "official" definition of it to protect Israel from the truth might have been the last straw that broke that particular camel's back.   As I pointed out the other day, that's so obviously what the goal was that even one of those in on it admitted that was the result, right-wing zionists using it as a weapon in the United States and elsewhere to shut of criticism of the Israeli government and to protect it from the consequences its actions earn.   I knew one woman who had fallen for the "Israel right or wrong" propaganda until she actually went there and observed the treatment of Palestinians by the Israeli government and their military.   The reality of what Israel was in reality shocked her out of a life-long habit of thought and she didn't support Israel nearly as much. 

Younger people don't have such a well-instilled habit.   Unfortunately, and especially due to the dishonest and irresponsible practice of the past seventy years that insists that antizionism is antisemitism,  Jews who are entirely blameless for the actions of Israel and the American support of it get the blame when the fascists in Israel commit atrocities.   Timmerman was right, most of the antisemitism from after 1948 is a result of the state of Israel.  Until zionism, the Muslims had a far better track record of co-existence with Jews than Europe did, though nothing like the record of the United States and Canada.  I am afraid we now have a real danger of that changing as zionists team up with our indigenous fascists in support of Israel.   Though most of the young antizionists I've encountered make the distinction between zionists and Jews,  I wouldn't depend on that safety net as antizionism becomes more main-stream.   And antizionism will become more mainstream due to the nature of the Israeli government and Israeli society under apartheid. 

This isn't going to continue.  Israel is an untenable project, especially as those who are of good will leave it in increasing numbers leaving the fanatics such as Brooklyn and Chicago have contributed to the fascist "settler" movement which has committed repeated acts of terror, some of which even the Israeli government has had to step in to stop.  I would love to know the percentage of the Lubavitcher cult from the United States  comprise those "settlers" and how they voted in the U.S. election - I assume most of them retain dual-citizenship.   Among the rioting soccer hooligans in Amsterdam, there were a number of Trump signs held up.   I would wonder what such a figure would show if such a figure could be had, as opposed to the lies included in opinion polling.