Looking it up online I find that the blonde oil shill is named Brooke Alexander who has had roles on a couple of soap operas, several nighttime shows and was hired by those organs of no-credibility, CNN and FOX "News" in a "journalistic capacity". Clearly she's far more successful as a professional liar than as an actor.
Sunday, February 10, 2013
It Had To Be Said
Having never replaced my old analogue TV when they switched to high definition, I don't see it much unless I'm visiting someone's house. One thing that I see enough to have developed a deep hatred of is those spots with the icy blonde lying on behalf of the Petroleum Institute. They're on all the time but especially during "news" programming. Those are as good an example of why broadcasters shouldn't be free to carry lies as it is possible to find. The incessantly repeated lies, quite often by a woman hired on the belief that women can lie for big money more credibly than men, are intended to have a real life effect on how people think and act. And by the time you've heard the lie for the thousandth time, it's undeniably implanted in the mind. Unless there is countering information to inform you that it's a lie, it's reasonable to believe the lie will be effective.
Saturday, February 9, 2013
Outakes From A Dysart's Restaurant Commercial
I haven't been to Dysart's Restaurant in Bangor Maine.
Illusory Foundations of Materialism 2a
In his autobiography, the great logician and mathematician, Bertrand Russell presented the decisive moment his older brother, Frank, launched his intellectual career by beginning him on Euclidean Geometry. Bertrand Russell was eleven. As well as being a great logician and mathematician, Russell was probably the most renowned professional atheist of his time*. As befits a budding professional doubter, the younger boy wanted to know why he should accept the axioms of plane geometry without proof. His brother didn't have an answer except to point out that unless he did accept them they couldn't go on.
I had been told that Euclid proved things, and was much disappointed that he started with axioms. At first I refused to accept them unless my brother could offer me some reason for doing so, but he said, "If you don't accept them we cannot go on", and I wished to go on, I reluctantly admitted them pro tem. The doubt as to the premises of mathematics which I felt at that moment remained with me, and determined the course of my subsequent work.
Bertrand Russell: Autobiography, volume 1 page 32
There is, to date, no absolute logical proof of the foundations of geometry, nor, as Russell found to his crushing disappointment in the late 1920s, of mathematics. The proof, famously provided by Kurt Godel, would seem to be that those don't exist within human reason. After more than two millenia of looking for them with some of the finest of human minds, call me skeptical, but I believe that kind of logical closure is as imaginary as other human quests for dreams of perfection.
There was, obviously, a strong emotional desire in young Bertrand for an absolute logical and intellectual certainty that is, simply, not available. If that absolute certainty is unavailable for the artificial forms of geometry and numbers, all of them human creations abstracted from humans' experience of the physical world, why would anyone expect absolute logical and intellectual certainty for less refined aspects of human experience? I think it's exactly that emotional desire for certainty that ruled large parts of Bertrand Russell's thinking and writing. He says that his conditional acceptance of the axioms of geometry was motivated by a desire to get on with the subject. He obviously wanted to have geometry more than his imagined perfection, for the time being.
Euclidean geometry is an application of the methods of logic as well as mathematics. All of mathematics is reliant on the human practice of logic, all mathematical proof is founded in logic. The consequence of that is that if any logical flaw is discovered in an exposition of mathematical propositions, the proposal fails. Mathematics rests on a basis of logic and, again, as was famously demonstrated by Godel, logic has no absolute foundation in itself. It rests on something that is far more disreputable in today's culture, human experience and persuasion. That has been known for far longer. For example, there is no logical reason to believe that because in every case you can conceive of it to follow that if a = b and b = c that a will equal c in each and every possible case. We believe that out of our common experience of the external world.
I'd go farther than that and point out that the first part of that, a equaling b is, clearly, a human construct. a is not b but it is held to be equal to b. a is also not identical to b, even if every single other thing about them is the same. b could be something exactly like a for every other purpose except that b was not a. There is at least that aspect that they don't share, a is not b. Equality would include that aspect of difference. That relationship of equality of two separate objects is the product of human thought, not an intrinsic attribute of a and b. And the statement can be even more problematic. If we say that a equals a and that b also equals a, then we have set up two different meanings for the relationship of equaling, both identity of something to itself and functional similarity of a thing to something other than itself. Obviously, in that case, the relationship of equality would not always be equal to itself. We can determine that from the imaginary entities "a" and "b" which we are capable of giving a similarity that real things don't really have. For real things that have an existence separate from human imagination, those relationships become even more tenuous through the differences between things held to be equal**.
We are accustomed to ignoring problems like that in cases when every single person in the world would maintain that a equals b but that is the case. Like the axioms of plane geometry, ignoring their equality is an invention of human convenience is something that works. If someone denied that common experience, they would be held to be irrational. We create that equivalence out of our abstracted experience of the physical world. We maintain that their equality is a useful idea because it works. It is a creation of human utility.
What can be said of the impossibility of an absolute foundation of logic separable from the far less than absolute foundation of human experience is even more true of higher level intellectual activity. Logic and mathematics are two of the foundations of science. Any scientific proposal that can be refuted by a failure of its logical or mathematical basis fails as science. Or that should be the case if the public promotion of science is honest. Far from being the verification of logic or mathematics, science is their ward. As repugnant as the idea is to many atheists who believe science is the absolute test of everything, science isn't even the proof of itself. Science relies on belief as certainly as mathematics or logic, there is no separable higher level of any of those products of human experience that is independent of that fact. It is extremely rare for a scientist to admit that, especially, in my experience, for an atheist to admit it. One of the few examples I know is found in Joseph Weizenbaum's great and tragically unknown book, Computer Power and Human Reason:
The man in the street surely believes such scientific facts to be as well-established, as well-proven, as his own existence. His certitude is an illusion. Nor is the scientist himself immune to the same illusion. In his praxis, he must, after all, suspend disbelief in order to do or think anything at all. He is rather like a theatergoer who, in order to participate in and understand what is happening on the stage, must for a time pretend to himself that he is witnessing real events. The scientist must believe his working hypothesis, together with its vast underlying structure of theories and assumptions, even if only for the sake of the argument. Often the "argument" extends over his entire lifetime. Gradually he becomes what he at first merely pretended to be; a true believer. I choose the word "argument" thoughtfully, for scientific demonstrations, even mathematical proofs, are fundamentally acts of persuasion.
Scientific statements can never be certain; they can only be more or less credible. And credibility is a term in individual psychology, i.e.. a term that has meaning only with respect to an individual observer. To say that some proposition is credible is, after all to say that it is believed by an agent who is free not to believe it, that is, by an observer who, after exercising judgement and (possibly) intuition, chooses to accept the proposition as worthy of his believing it. How then can science, which itself surely and ultimately rests on vast arrays of human value judgments demonstrate that human value judgments are illusory? It cannot do so without forfeiting its own status as the single legitimate path to understanding man and his world.
Immediately after that rather bracing idea, Weizenbaum placed the myth of scientific certainty in its undoubted and highly dangerous social context:
But no merely logical argument, no matter how cogent or eloquent can undo the reality that science has become the sole legitimate form of understanding in the common wisdom. When I say that science has been gradually converted into a slow-acting poison, I mean that the attribution of certainty to scientific knowledge by the common wisdom, an attribution now made so nearly universally that it has become a commonsense dogma, has virtually delegitimatized all other ways of understanding.
The rest of the book is a brilliantly argued analysis of the problems coming from that most common of faith holdings.
I think Joseph Weizenbaum's confessions of the real nature of, not only science but of logic and mathematics is one of the bravest intellectual acts I've ever encountered. He questions the status which science claims and which is claimed for it and asserts that foremost creed of modern life is dangerous. With it he jeopardized his credibility with less rigorous thinkers, his professional standing and the usual foundations of atheism. I've never encountered another atheist who so basically impeached the intellectual conceit that most of the articulation of atheism is based in. The use of science and logic in atheist polemics against religion requires that their own dependence on belief, on persuasion be ignored or denied in a sputtering display of derision.
* Though, officially, Russell was an agnostic. There's a case that he stole that position from Joseph McCabe who will figure in a later post. Today Russell's position has remained in atheist culture whereas McCabe has been eclipsed. I think there were political reasons in the post-war period cover up the period of atheist history that McCabe represents.
** In nothing else is the problem so undeniable as the frequent holding that people and other living beings are interchangeable objects. What began in the 19th century scientific sexism and racism that made generalized statements about women, men, Black people, "Redskins" etc. is matched today in the ubiquitous faith in the genetic determinism of organisms, the resurgent expression of the same faith. The dependence of that faith on the allegedly scientific study of twins, the assertions of identity based on a shared genome ignores the fact that even identical twins raised together do not share the same identity but are, in fact, individual people. Even when the twins, themselves, deeply want to believe otherwise.
Even clones are not identical to the "parent", not even on the most basic level of physical appearance. Organisms are not abstractions that can be manipulated like angles made by intersecting lines, they cannot be rotated and mentally superimposed on each other, becoming identical. Even real lines in real space can't really be manipulated into identity. How much less can organisms, which exist as independent beings in reality be scientifically squeezed into the same kind of imaginary, geometric non-space. Even those ants I mentioned the other day are individuals. If science can pretend they are for every desired purpose, that doesn't change the fact that the purpose of science is not a comprehensive and exhaustive description and manipulation of the lives of individuals within an ant colony. Yet so many people today are content to pretend that human beings are interchangeable vehicles of DNA, ignoring even the differences in that famous molecule and the variability of its functions in even individual cells.
I had been told that Euclid proved things, and was much disappointed that he started with axioms. At first I refused to accept them unless my brother could offer me some reason for doing so, but he said, "If you don't accept them we cannot go on", and I wished to go on, I reluctantly admitted them pro tem. The doubt as to the premises of mathematics which I felt at that moment remained with me, and determined the course of my subsequent work.
Bertrand Russell: Autobiography, volume 1 page 32
There is, to date, no absolute logical proof of the foundations of geometry, nor, as Russell found to his crushing disappointment in the late 1920s, of mathematics. The proof, famously provided by Kurt Godel, would seem to be that those don't exist within human reason. After more than two millenia of looking for them with some of the finest of human minds, call me skeptical, but I believe that kind of logical closure is as imaginary as other human quests for dreams of perfection.
There was, obviously, a strong emotional desire in young Bertrand for an absolute logical and intellectual certainty that is, simply, not available. If that absolute certainty is unavailable for the artificial forms of geometry and numbers, all of them human creations abstracted from humans' experience of the physical world, why would anyone expect absolute logical and intellectual certainty for less refined aspects of human experience? I think it's exactly that emotional desire for certainty that ruled large parts of Bertrand Russell's thinking and writing. He says that his conditional acceptance of the axioms of geometry was motivated by a desire to get on with the subject. He obviously wanted to have geometry more than his imagined perfection, for the time being.
Euclidean geometry is an application of the methods of logic as well as mathematics. All of mathematics is reliant on the human practice of logic, all mathematical proof is founded in logic. The consequence of that is that if any logical flaw is discovered in an exposition of mathematical propositions, the proposal fails. Mathematics rests on a basis of logic and, again, as was famously demonstrated by Godel, logic has no absolute foundation in itself. It rests on something that is far more disreputable in today's culture, human experience and persuasion. That has been known for far longer. For example, there is no logical reason to believe that because in every case you can conceive of it to follow that if a = b and b = c that a will equal c in each and every possible case. We believe that out of our common experience of the external world.
I'd go farther than that and point out that the first part of that, a equaling b is, clearly, a human construct. a is not b but it is held to be equal to b. a is also not identical to b, even if every single other thing about them is the same. b could be something exactly like a for every other purpose except that b was not a. There is at least that aspect that they don't share, a is not b. Equality would include that aspect of difference. That relationship of equality of two separate objects is the product of human thought, not an intrinsic attribute of a and b. And the statement can be even more problematic. If we say that a equals a and that b also equals a, then we have set up two different meanings for the relationship of equaling, both identity of something to itself and functional similarity of a thing to something other than itself. Obviously, in that case, the relationship of equality would not always be equal to itself. We can determine that from the imaginary entities "a" and "b" which we are capable of giving a similarity that real things don't really have. For real things that have an existence separate from human imagination, those relationships become even more tenuous through the differences between things held to be equal**.
We are accustomed to ignoring problems like that in cases when every single person in the world would maintain that a equals b but that is the case. Like the axioms of plane geometry, ignoring their equality is an invention of human convenience is something that works. If someone denied that common experience, they would be held to be irrational. We create that equivalence out of our abstracted experience of the physical world. We maintain that their equality is a useful idea because it works. It is a creation of human utility.
What can be said of the impossibility of an absolute foundation of logic separable from the far less than absolute foundation of human experience is even more true of higher level intellectual activity. Logic and mathematics are two of the foundations of science. Any scientific proposal that can be refuted by a failure of its logical or mathematical basis fails as science. Or that should be the case if the public promotion of science is honest. Far from being the verification of logic or mathematics, science is their ward. As repugnant as the idea is to many atheists who believe science is the absolute test of everything, science isn't even the proof of itself. Science relies on belief as certainly as mathematics or logic, there is no separable higher level of any of those products of human experience that is independent of that fact. It is extremely rare for a scientist to admit that, especially, in my experience, for an atheist to admit it. One of the few examples I know is found in Joseph Weizenbaum's great and tragically unknown book, Computer Power and Human Reason:
The man in the street surely believes such scientific facts to be as well-established, as well-proven, as his own existence. His certitude is an illusion. Nor is the scientist himself immune to the same illusion. In his praxis, he must, after all, suspend disbelief in order to do or think anything at all. He is rather like a theatergoer who, in order to participate in and understand what is happening on the stage, must for a time pretend to himself that he is witnessing real events. The scientist must believe his working hypothesis, together with its vast underlying structure of theories and assumptions, even if only for the sake of the argument. Often the "argument" extends over his entire lifetime. Gradually he becomes what he at first merely pretended to be; a true believer. I choose the word "argument" thoughtfully, for scientific demonstrations, even mathematical proofs, are fundamentally acts of persuasion.
Scientific statements can never be certain; they can only be more or less credible. And credibility is a term in individual psychology, i.e.. a term that has meaning only with respect to an individual observer. To say that some proposition is credible is, after all to say that it is believed by an agent who is free not to believe it, that is, by an observer who, after exercising judgement and (possibly) intuition, chooses to accept the proposition as worthy of his believing it. How then can science, which itself surely and ultimately rests on vast arrays of human value judgments demonstrate that human value judgments are illusory? It cannot do so without forfeiting its own status as the single legitimate path to understanding man and his world.
Immediately after that rather bracing idea, Weizenbaum placed the myth of scientific certainty in its undoubted and highly dangerous social context:
But no merely logical argument, no matter how cogent or eloquent can undo the reality that science has become the sole legitimate form of understanding in the common wisdom. When I say that science has been gradually converted into a slow-acting poison, I mean that the attribution of certainty to scientific knowledge by the common wisdom, an attribution now made so nearly universally that it has become a commonsense dogma, has virtually delegitimatized all other ways of understanding.
The rest of the book is a brilliantly argued analysis of the problems coming from that most common of faith holdings.
I think Joseph Weizenbaum's confessions of the real nature of, not only science but of logic and mathematics is one of the bravest intellectual acts I've ever encountered. He questions the status which science claims and which is claimed for it and asserts that foremost creed of modern life is dangerous. With it he jeopardized his credibility with less rigorous thinkers, his professional standing and the usual foundations of atheism. I've never encountered another atheist who so basically impeached the intellectual conceit that most of the articulation of atheism is based in. The use of science and logic in atheist polemics against religion requires that their own dependence on belief, on persuasion be ignored or denied in a sputtering display of derision.
* Though, officially, Russell was an agnostic. There's a case that he stole that position from Joseph McCabe who will figure in a later post. Today Russell's position has remained in atheist culture whereas McCabe has been eclipsed. I think there were political reasons in the post-war period cover up the period of atheist history that McCabe represents.
** In nothing else is the problem so undeniable as the frequent holding that people and other living beings are interchangeable objects. What began in the 19th century scientific sexism and racism that made generalized statements about women, men, Black people, "Redskins" etc. is matched today in the ubiquitous faith in the genetic determinism of organisms, the resurgent expression of the same faith. The dependence of that faith on the allegedly scientific study of twins, the assertions of identity based on a shared genome ignores the fact that even identical twins raised together do not share the same identity but are, in fact, individual people. Even when the twins, themselves, deeply want to believe otherwise.
Even clones are not identical to the "parent", not even on the most basic level of physical appearance. Organisms are not abstractions that can be manipulated like angles made by intersecting lines, they cannot be rotated and mentally superimposed on each other, becoming identical. Even real lines in real space can't really be manipulated into identity. How much less can organisms, which exist as independent beings in reality be scientifically squeezed into the same kind of imaginary, geometric non-space. Even those ants I mentioned the other day are individuals. If science can pretend they are for every desired purpose, that doesn't change the fact that the purpose of science is not a comprehensive and exhaustive description and manipulation of the lives of individuals within an ant colony. Yet so many people today are content to pretend that human beings are interchangeable vehicles of DNA, ignoring even the differences in that famous molecule and the variability of its functions in even individual cells.
Friday, February 8, 2013
Comment On An Article About The Prospects Of Making Contact
with those really, really close planets that might have life on them.
“If someone posts a message that takes 13 years to get there and is waiting for an answer they'll be 26 years older by the time that gets there. I think that's what's called a "stilted conversation".
“If someone posts a message that takes 13 years to get there and is waiting for an answer they'll be 26 years older by the time that gets there. I think that's what's called a "stilted conversation".
Atheists Granted Indulgences* by PZ Myers
* It should be known from here on as The PZary Indulgence.
Note: We seem to be about to lose electricity, here in New England so I'm going to repost this piece I first posted last September.
It's a growing problem, the intellectual decadence that flows from the atheist blogs. As I mentioned in my recent series on Darwin, Eugenics and Haeckel, most of the people who claimed that Darwin has nothing to do with either of those do so from the position of never having read any of what the relevant people said about it. Including Charles Darwin. Some of them rely, at best, on secondary sources which are often motivated by ideology. And most of those I've encountered argue out of tertiary garbage only occasionally based on secondary sources, when they're not also based on other tertiary garbage or complete lies. But it gets even worse than that when an atheist demands the privilege of speaking out of absolutely no knowledge at all.
Note: We seem to be about to lose electricity, here in New England so I'm going to repost this piece I first posted last September.
It's a growing problem, the intellectual decadence that flows from the atheist blogs. As I mentioned in my recent series on Darwin, Eugenics and Haeckel, most of the people who claimed that Darwin has nothing to do with either of those do so from the position of never having read any of what the relevant people said about it. Including Charles Darwin. Some of them rely, at best, on secondary sources which are often motivated by ideology. And most of those I've encountered argue out of tertiary garbage only occasionally based on secondary sources, when they're not also based on other tertiary garbage or complete lies. But it gets even worse than that when an atheist demands the privilege of speaking out of absolutely no knowledge at all.
The most commonly encountered statement of that privilege on the blogs comes from P.Z. Myers in defense of his friend, Richard Dawkins' radically minimalist scholarship in his The God Delusion. In many reviews from real scholars, a number of them atheists, it was noted that Dawkins made his would-be, two-fisted, final slam-down of theology firmly standing on the shoulders of such specialists as Douglas Adams and Carl Sagan. In fact, it would seem from that book and his response to those critics, that Richard Dawkins knows quite a very little about theology other than that he does not like it. I'm unaware of any evidence that he has, in the ensuing years, corrected that gap in his education. Since the book comes from a man who held an endowed chair at Oxford University as he wrote the it, his exposition from ignorance raised a number of objections.
To his rescue came P. Z. Myers, an associate professor of biology at the University of Minnesota at Morris and, more importantly, the owner of Phrayngula blog*, with his"Courtier's Reply" . "The Reply" is rather repetitious and mostly trivial** but, in order to prevent P.Z.'s nay-men choir from pulling out the old "quote mining" charge, I'll give it as he did, in full. I will, though, underline what seems to be the substance of it.
I have considered the impudent accusations of Mr Dawkins with exasperation at his lack of serious scholarship. He has apparently not read the detailed discourses of Count Roderigo of Seville on the exquisite and exotic leathers of the Emperor’s boots, nor does he give a moment’s consideration to Bellini’s masterwork, On the Luminescence of the Emperor’s Feathered Hat. We have entire schools dedicated to writing learned treatises on the beauty of the Emperor’s raiment, and every major newspaper runs a section dedicated to imperial fashion; Dawkins cavalierly dismisses them all. He even laughs at the highly popular and most persuasive arguments of his fellow countryman, Lord D. T. Mawkscribbler, who famously pointed out that the Emperor would not wear common cotton, nor uncomfortable polyester, but must, I say must, wear undergarments of the finest silk.
Dawkins arrogantly ignores all these deep philosophical ponderings to crudely accuse the Emperor of nudity.
Personally, I suspect that perhaps the Emperor might not be fully clothed— how else to explain the apparent sloth of the staff at the palace laundry — but, well, everyone else does seem to go on about his clothes, and this Dawkins fellow is such a rude upstart who lacks the wit of my elegant circumlocutions, that, while unable to deal with the substance of his accusations, I should at least chide him for his very bad form.
Until Dawkins has trained in the shops of Paris and Milan, until he has learned to tell the difference between a ruffled flounce and a puffy pantaloon, we should all pretend he has not spoken out against the Emperor’s taste. His training in biology may give him the ability to recognize dangling genitalia when he sees it, but it has not taught him the proper appreciation of Imaginary Fabrics.
To paraphrase, I'd say it meant, P.Z Myers is upset that his friend Richard Dawkins is being criticized for neglecting to know enough on a topic he wrote about in what was supposed to be a serious book by an Oxford scholar. And the best he can do is pretend that it's not a requirement of serious scholarship to know what you're talking about. And the excuse for not knowing what you're talking about is that you don't need to know what you're talking about when P.Z Myers and Richard Dawkins don't like the topic of Dawkins' book. Which is, apparently, an acceptable intellectual stand among many atheists.
P.Z. Myers is taking a stand not much different from the stand that Galileo complained of to Kepler:
.... what would you say of the learned here, who, replete with the pertinacity of the ass, have steadfastly refused to cast a glance through the telescope? What shall we make of all of this? Shall we laugh or shall we cry? Trans. from The Crime of Galileo by Giorgio de Santillana
Apparently Myers has taken up the same standard of intellectual conduct that Galileo struggled against from scholastic scholars upholding geocentric astronomy. Which, since "The Courtier's Reply" amounts to an atheist plenary indulgence to expound ignorantly, isn't that strange. According to him you don't have to know what you're talking about before you write a mighty tome on the subject from an endowed chair at Oxford University. Or from his position at The University of Minnesota at Morris. Which I'm sure many of his colleagues at his own university would disagree with. And it's a privilege that I've heard asserted all over the atheist blogs.
Science seems to be entering into a decadent period in which scientists who are fully as arrogant as a pantomime Cardinal in anti-religious mummery, declare themselves competent to expound on things that they not only demonstrate they have never studied but which they admit they've never studied declaring that their superior scienciness is a virtue that allows them to expound of in complete ignorance. Considering that, in his "Reply" post one of the reviewers he critisized by name is H. Allen Orr, whose scientific credentials are definitely more credible than Myers' and, I'd say, more than match Dawkins, his arrogance isn't just to non-scientists.
There have always been jerks like that in science, relying on the reputation of science and, in a few instances, their specialized and particular achievements to allow them to bluff through any other topic. But, today, that intellectual dishonesty is entirely out of hand. It reaches the zenith of its foolishness when the sci-guys complain on being called on their ignorance by people who know what they're talking about. Maybe PZ should be told that his "Reply" makes him sound like one of the lying, hypocritical and pompous twits he invented to pompously assert atheists don't need to know what they're talking about . And there's not so much as a stitch of thread to cover his self-exposed shame. I thought it was about time someone told him that.
* It is an astounding fact to some of the blog atheists I've discussed Myers with that he isn't the major figure in science or scholarship they imagine. Once, in preparing a blog post about teaching science, I asked several biology teachers I know, who all have undergraduate degrees in the subject, what they thought about P.Z. Myers. Three of them had no idea who he was and the fourth said he never bothered with blogs, being a teacher took all of his time.
** When I first read it I couldn't believe any serious people who ever had to write a jr. high school paper would take it as anything but P.Z. writing a slacker-quality blog post on a day he had nothing to say. But it's gained a currency among blog atheists along such ideas as "a Poe" and "quote mining" and it's worth saying something about. Among blog atheists, The Courtier's Reply is taken on as a rule of logical discourse, a universal acid to dispose of any observation that the atheist doesn't know what they're talking about. The idea of university professors and teachers speaking up for discourse out of ignorance, and doing it with a fable riddled with logical fallacies and just plain stupidity is pretty discouraging.
Thursday, February 7, 2013
Science Should Face Facts Not Front Matierilaist Fables About Evolution
Consider how frequently self-appointed skeptics and atheists assert the unreliability of other people's beliefs about their own thoughts, saying that anyone who believes anything about their own, personal experience is unreliable if not that the person is delusional. That is something that is commonly done when it is something the "skeptic" doesn't like. But the same "skeptical" atheist will then assert as truth what ethologists and evo-psy scribblers say about what is going on in the minds of animals and ancient human ancestors who can't even tell us what they believe about their experience.
In my recent arguments with Jeffrey Shallit, a computer sci-guy- mathematician at the University of Waterloo, one of the problems seems to be that he, like most of the educated class of the English Speaking Peoples, has a misconception of the state of the art of the science of evolution. Among mathematicians and scientists that misconception is, really, inexcusable. It's extremely simple to demonstrate that the science rests on an extremely small fraction of the relevant information which a theoretically complete science of evolution would require.
We've all been brought up to have many articles of faith about some of the most complex of science and in no area is this more true than the study of evolution. I've come to believe that's true because evolutionary science has become so polluted with ideological and political extras that it is prone to producing faith positions founded in ideological struggle in place of science. And I'm only talking about those of us who accept the fact that evolution is a fact.
Perhaps Shallit, as many a scientist who doesn't specialize in evolution, and many who do, has a much inflated conception of how much is known today about what is, beyond a doubt, the largest and most complex phenomenon, only partly susceptible to scientific methods, that science proposes to study. I say partly because in the 3.5+ billion years long, trillions of organisms vast "thing" that comprises evolution, the vast majority of the physical subject matter is lost through rot, consumption, erosion, and being unfound, crushed, in the vastness of geological change.
And those are just the theoretically observable physical aspects of evolution. Evolution is also an historical science, dealing with the lives of organisms, singly, in groups and in the entire biosphere, which are among the most relevant of events that impinge and have impinged on all aspects of change in species over time. Any events that had an effect on evolution during those trillions of lives that are unrecorded are lost to science, forever.
A brief consideration of the dimensions of time and numbers in evolution as compared to the history of human evolutionary study reveals just how little of that is available for science. The attempts to reconstruct those lost events are so fraught with susceptibility to misconception, misunderstanding and, most often of all, professional and ideological interest and wishful thinking, that the products derived from that should be called "lore" not science. And that is probably charitable, in many cases. Much of what is passed off as science is intentional ideological promotion instead of reporting on the observation of physical evidence.
It is undeniable that the fraction of what is reliably known about evolution constitutes an extremely small part of one percent of the defined phenomena science proposes that the science of evolution covers. And it's quite possible that list of included phenomena, today, is far from complete. My expectation of any phenomenon known in that puny amount of detail is that people making general statements about it are more likely to guess wrong than right about the entire thing. It doesn't much matter how you feel about the consequences of that level of ignorance or how extremely inconvenient the consequences of it, what you don't know really does matter. I'd have thought that, considering the truly infinite field of mathematics, that a mathematician might have gotten his mind around a problem like that.
And that's about what is vulnerable to study by scientific methods. The entirely relevant issues of thoughts and related behaviors of sentient beings, perhaps, especially of the more intelligent of those, are entirely hidden and ideas about them are frequently wrong. Which is what the "skeptical" debunkery mentioned in the first paragraph is based on, only, clearly, not when it suits them to pretend otherwise. In nothing is that more true than in human "study" of the minds and motives of animals. Even those close to us in the tree of life are, honestly, incomprehensible.
For animals, today, as much unlike us as ants, bees and wasps, generally living in colonies consisting of sterile, non-breeding, siblings all belonging to different biologically determined castes in service to a breeding sister who is the mother of them all, including the smaller number of males, the idea that their thoughts and minds are comprehensible to human beings is bizarre. Even to human beings, who grow up to make their way to teach at Harvard or Oxford. There is no reason to believe that even the admitted expert, E.O. Wilson, can comprehend what the mind of an ant is like, what it is like to function from the point of view of an ant. How that isn't relevant to an alleged study of "ant behavior" should be asked before getting on with academic publication.
When you consider the problem of one human being understanding another one, the idea that even the foremost human myrmecologist can do that is justifiably considered superstition and socially and academically enforced pretense. Consider if, as I'd guess is likely, that ants are not the unvaried, barely thinking, beings we imagine out of our ignorance for our convenience. To be getting on with publication.
It is convenient to the allegedly scientific study of behavior to pretend that even people are far simpler than they are. People can, sometimes, honestly testify as to what's going on unseeable, in their minds but, they are frequently mistaken about that. Admit your own experience, how well you can report that is incomplete, at best. And admit that without that report, nothing of anyone's internal experience is available to anyone but them. There is every reason to suspect that, as with the artist of that 35,000 year statue who left no record of what they were thinking I wrote about the other day, what people and ants today are thinking is not susceptible to science. Actually, without any articulation of it, there is no reason to pretend that it is.
And that's not even taking into account how scientific assertions about behavior are based only in the few individuals studied. Of those ants in their jillions around today, an extremely tiny sample are available to be watched by researchers, for a limited amount of time. Ants in even the recent evolutionary past and many others, presumably in species unknown today, thought and acted unrecorded for purposes of scientific observation and can't honesty be said to be available to science. That is true for all but the infinitesimally tiny fraction of animals studied in the history of evolution, including even the direct ancestors of modern humans, which can never be observed with the rigor to honestly constitute science.
Every single thing that can be said about thought is the product of the mind of the person saying it. That is even more so of the person talking about minds other than their own, commenting on what they can't know first hand. That fact determines the quality of what can be said about it. There is nothing to look at and measure and identify to report as something that can honestly aspire to objectivity. Behavioral "scientists" are using their own experience and the lens of their particular professional training to come up with ideas about that behavior and what is behind it. It is inevitably distorted and polluted by that fact. Consider how rare it is for an academic writer on behavior or cognition to come up with observations radically disconfirming their previous assertions. Any explanation of behavior is susceptible to that inevitable distortion. Even more than that, any idea proposed about that is susceptible to being the product of the interested imagination of the ethologist or other "scientist". It might have nothing to do with nature, at all. It might be merely imagination reported as reliable information. There is no process of logical verification, such as that possible in mathematics, that can verify the reality of anything said about behavior. Unlike the physical bodies and even observable behaviors that can be described and measured, thoughts today and, even more so the lost past, cannot honestly be subjected to scientific study.
When Shallit wasn't replacing opposing arguments and evidence with recitations of authorities and derision, he was asserting the scientific correctness of Sociobiology, the briefly popular "science" that E.O.Wilson instituted in the 1970s. In a very short time, in the face of its opponents pointing out its lavish application of assumptions about living species, asserting "behaviors" present in species clear across the vast field of taxonomy and other deficiencies, it was intentionally turned into "Evolutionary" Psychology, in which those assertions were made about the lost past, leaving "scientists" free to make conjectures without the inconvenience of reviewable observation of living beings.
All of this alleged biology replaces observable, measurable, physical evidence with conjecture. The practice of making up stories and calling it science is endemic to psychology and other social sciences, it always has been through out their history. It is not surprising that, whenever it is desired, that kind of story telling is asserted to be biological science. Today it's all the rage among that most tenuously asserted and self-interested of so-called "sciences", economics. Profitably telling rich people fables about their virtues and their money as biology is probably as sure a sign of complete decadence in a branch grafted on to real science as it is possible to find.
Periods of decadence, often related to the self-interest of an entrenched, financially rewarded establishment, happen in academic fields. I think, in the face of the extremely small amount of real information available on which to base the serious study of evolution, the fact of the behavioral and other aspects of that problem honestly being unavailable and the desire to make a name with what are purported to be vastly important discoveries, evolutionary science will be found to be more prone to that than some other areas of science. The real relevance of the behavior of organisms to evolution and the impossibility of honestly studying that with science in order to make general statements about it is a guarantee that "behavior" will be the vehicle leading the truly scientific study of evolution into decadence. If real biologists choose to accept baseless lore as science, there's not much anyone else can do to protect the integrity of the subject. I'm not optimistic that things will improve, there being so much professional prestige built up in opposition to that integrity.
In my recent arguments with Jeffrey Shallit, a computer sci-guy- mathematician at the University of Waterloo, one of the problems seems to be that he, like most of the educated class of the English Speaking Peoples, has a misconception of the state of the art of the science of evolution. Among mathematicians and scientists that misconception is, really, inexcusable. It's extremely simple to demonstrate that the science rests on an extremely small fraction of the relevant information which a theoretically complete science of evolution would require.
We've all been brought up to have many articles of faith about some of the most complex of science and in no area is this more true than the study of evolution. I've come to believe that's true because evolutionary science has become so polluted with ideological and political extras that it is prone to producing faith positions founded in ideological struggle in place of science. And I'm only talking about those of us who accept the fact that evolution is a fact.
Perhaps Shallit, as many a scientist who doesn't specialize in evolution, and many who do, has a much inflated conception of how much is known today about what is, beyond a doubt, the largest and most complex phenomenon, only partly susceptible to scientific methods, that science proposes to study. I say partly because in the 3.5+ billion years long, trillions of organisms vast "thing" that comprises evolution, the vast majority of the physical subject matter is lost through rot, consumption, erosion, and being unfound, crushed, in the vastness of geological change.
And those are just the theoretically observable physical aspects of evolution. Evolution is also an historical science, dealing with the lives of organisms, singly, in groups and in the entire biosphere, which are among the most relevant of events that impinge and have impinged on all aspects of change in species over time. Any events that had an effect on evolution during those trillions of lives that are unrecorded are lost to science, forever.
A brief consideration of the dimensions of time and numbers in evolution as compared to the history of human evolutionary study reveals just how little of that is available for science. The attempts to reconstruct those lost events are so fraught with susceptibility to misconception, misunderstanding and, most often of all, professional and ideological interest and wishful thinking, that the products derived from that should be called "lore" not science. And that is probably charitable, in many cases. Much of what is passed off as science is intentional ideological promotion instead of reporting on the observation of physical evidence.
It is undeniable that the fraction of what is reliably known about evolution constitutes an extremely small part of one percent of the defined phenomena science proposes that the science of evolution covers. And it's quite possible that list of included phenomena, today, is far from complete. My expectation of any phenomenon known in that puny amount of detail is that people making general statements about it are more likely to guess wrong than right about the entire thing. It doesn't much matter how you feel about the consequences of that level of ignorance or how extremely inconvenient the consequences of it, what you don't know really does matter. I'd have thought that, considering the truly infinite field of mathematics, that a mathematician might have gotten his mind around a problem like that.
And that's about what is vulnerable to study by scientific methods. The entirely relevant issues of thoughts and related behaviors of sentient beings, perhaps, especially of the more intelligent of those, are entirely hidden and ideas about them are frequently wrong. Which is what the "skeptical" debunkery mentioned in the first paragraph is based on, only, clearly, not when it suits them to pretend otherwise. In nothing is that more true than in human "study" of the minds and motives of animals. Even those close to us in the tree of life are, honestly, incomprehensible.
For animals, today, as much unlike us as ants, bees and wasps, generally living in colonies consisting of sterile, non-breeding, siblings all belonging to different biologically determined castes in service to a breeding sister who is the mother of them all, including the smaller number of males, the idea that their thoughts and minds are comprehensible to human beings is bizarre. Even to human beings, who grow up to make their way to teach at Harvard or Oxford. There is no reason to believe that even the admitted expert, E.O. Wilson, can comprehend what the mind of an ant is like, what it is like to function from the point of view of an ant. How that isn't relevant to an alleged study of "ant behavior" should be asked before getting on with academic publication.
When you consider the problem of one human being understanding another one, the idea that even the foremost human myrmecologist can do that is justifiably considered superstition and socially and academically enforced pretense. Consider if, as I'd guess is likely, that ants are not the unvaried, barely thinking, beings we imagine out of our ignorance for our convenience. To be getting on with publication.
It is convenient to the allegedly scientific study of behavior to pretend that even people are far simpler than they are. People can, sometimes, honestly testify as to what's going on unseeable, in their minds but, they are frequently mistaken about that. Admit your own experience, how well you can report that is incomplete, at best. And admit that without that report, nothing of anyone's internal experience is available to anyone but them. There is every reason to suspect that, as with the artist of that 35,000 year statue who left no record of what they were thinking I wrote about the other day, what people and ants today are thinking is not susceptible to science. Actually, without any articulation of it, there is no reason to pretend that it is.
And that's not even taking into account how scientific assertions about behavior are based only in the few individuals studied. Of those ants in their jillions around today, an extremely tiny sample are available to be watched by researchers, for a limited amount of time. Ants in even the recent evolutionary past and many others, presumably in species unknown today, thought and acted unrecorded for purposes of scientific observation and can't honesty be said to be available to science. That is true for all but the infinitesimally tiny fraction of animals studied in the history of evolution, including even the direct ancestors of modern humans, which can never be observed with the rigor to honestly constitute science.
Every single thing that can be said about thought is the product of the mind of the person saying it. That is even more so of the person talking about minds other than their own, commenting on what they can't know first hand. That fact determines the quality of what can be said about it. There is nothing to look at and measure and identify to report as something that can honestly aspire to objectivity. Behavioral "scientists" are using their own experience and the lens of their particular professional training to come up with ideas about that behavior and what is behind it. It is inevitably distorted and polluted by that fact. Consider how rare it is for an academic writer on behavior or cognition to come up with observations radically disconfirming their previous assertions. Any explanation of behavior is susceptible to that inevitable distortion. Even more than that, any idea proposed about that is susceptible to being the product of the interested imagination of the ethologist or other "scientist". It might have nothing to do with nature, at all. It might be merely imagination reported as reliable information. There is no process of logical verification, such as that possible in mathematics, that can verify the reality of anything said about behavior. Unlike the physical bodies and even observable behaviors that can be described and measured, thoughts today and, even more so the lost past, cannot honestly be subjected to scientific study.
When Shallit wasn't replacing opposing arguments and evidence with recitations of authorities and derision, he was asserting the scientific correctness of Sociobiology, the briefly popular "science" that E.O.Wilson instituted in the 1970s. In a very short time, in the face of its opponents pointing out its lavish application of assumptions about living species, asserting "behaviors" present in species clear across the vast field of taxonomy and other deficiencies, it was intentionally turned into "Evolutionary" Psychology, in which those assertions were made about the lost past, leaving "scientists" free to make conjectures without the inconvenience of reviewable observation of living beings.
All of this alleged biology replaces observable, measurable, physical evidence with conjecture. The practice of making up stories and calling it science is endemic to psychology and other social sciences, it always has been through out their history. It is not surprising that, whenever it is desired, that kind of story telling is asserted to be biological science. Today it's all the rage among that most tenuously asserted and self-interested of so-called "sciences", economics. Profitably telling rich people fables about their virtues and their money as biology is probably as sure a sign of complete decadence in a branch grafted on to real science as it is possible to find.
Periods of decadence, often related to the self-interest of an entrenched, financially rewarded establishment, happen in academic fields. I think, in the face of the extremely small amount of real information available on which to base the serious study of evolution, the fact of the behavioral and other aspects of that problem honestly being unavailable and the desire to make a name with what are purported to be vastly important discoveries, evolutionary science will be found to be more prone to that than some other areas of science. The real relevance of the behavior of organisms to evolution and the impossibility of honestly studying that with science in order to make general statements about it is a guarantee that "behavior" will be the vehicle leading the truly scientific study of evolution into decadence. If real biologists choose to accept baseless lore as science, there's not much anyone else can do to protect the integrity of the subject. I'm not optimistic that things will improve, there being so much professional prestige built up in opposition to that integrity.
Wednesday, February 6, 2013
I'm Not Ashamed To Say This Goes Way Too Far
In looking up the activities of the prominent member of CSICOP, "Humanist", writer for Free Inquiry, the "Human Sexuality Editor" at Prometheus Books (the atheist version of Regnery) and all round fixture of recent organized atheism and pro-pedophilia advocate- board member of Paidika, the late, Vern Bullough, I found out that there is a pedophile version of Wikipedia. I won't link to it, I won't name it, I won't advocate you look at it. What next? Pro-Anorexia Wiki? Hit Man Wiki? Puppy Torture Wiki?
Tuesday, February 5, 2013
Making Up Stories Calling Them Science and No One Bats An Eyelid
One of the rather charming experiences of going through old writing about science is reading the confident, informed, progressive knowledge of the rightness of the latest science, how it overturns the ancient superstition or absurdly wrong beliefs of earlier times and that the present day now knows the truth. Sometimes the writer invites the audience to smile over the naivety of what used to be believed. Only, sometimes, that declaration of confidence turned out to be too quickly made. Of course, today, scientists and, even more so, the non-scientific writers of science journalism know better. They never would make that kind of mistake.
I came across Jeffrey Sallit's "Recursivity" blog while researching a quote that interested me. He is a professor in the Computer Science department of The University of Waterloo, listed online as a mathematician. I posted a comment on one of his recent diatribes against his colleagues talking about religion, which led to a discussion of two topics in the social "sciences". I will write about the second one as part of the series I'm working on but the first one is so easily discussed that it hardly needs research. I've previously written on both.
I'll begin by pointing out that three days into the dispute Shallit hasn't produced arguments but has depended on reciting names, Hamilton, Haldane, Maynard-Smith, not what they claimed but merely a litany of their names. Those experienced with atheist debating tactics will know this is the infamous "argument from authority" which atheists so often hold is a logical fallacy which religious people are addicted to. Shallit has not quoted any of his cited authorities to refute my points, nor do I believe on the basis of having read some of them he could. If he can he has had three days of my pointing out his failure to back up what he was saying to do it
And, also familiar to anyone who has disputed much with online atheists, his other weapon is mockery, repeated assertions of crackpottery. Something that atheists are always whining about, "ad hominem". I'm sure that's his appeal to the prejudice of his usual atheist audience, which is the entire purpose of that debating tactic.
If Shallit can do any better would seem to be a fading prospect as he's still carrying on the way he has for three days running. We will see.
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The easy part of it is my point about that famous 35,000 year old statue that was much in the news about three and a half years ago. The one which was uniformly held by the "experts" to be typical of men's sexually ideal woman, a way back in them thar days.
At the time it was announced and, by virtue of the sex angle, all over the news, I read a lot of accounts, including the one linked to above, and noted that the "experts" were making an awful lot of baseless assumptions about why it was made, who made it and what it represented to those folks, who all died more than thirty thousand years ago, leaving no written record of what they or the artist thought of the thing.
Most telling of all was that none of the "experts" I'd seen quoted ever considered that the artist might have been a woman. That it might be a self-portrait or a portrait of the artist's mother. As their speculation cut out what was likely the thinking of, presumably, half of the population, the belief that their proposed ideal was "typical" of the time, is kind of deficient as science, not to mention mathematics. Perhaps the artist was a lesbian.
They all seemed to think that it would have been typical of the ideal of women in the presumed society its imagined artist is presumed to have been a typical member of when there is no other known representation from any presumed "culture" of that period. The next available one in time being made thousands of years after this one. How a sample of exactly one example can allow them to know that is one of those mysteries of the divination so casually practiced in the social and behavioral "sciences".
For all we know the figure was the creation of a pre-historic chubby chaser who imagined women fatter than he'd ever seen, or, maybe, it was an object of ridicule on account of its absurd proportions. I'd wonder if the teensy-little head might be an indication of that being the case but I'd never call my guess work "scientific". Maybe it was a satirical protest against a leaner though overly ample "ideal" or maybe it was a protest that fat is beautiful too.
We have no way of knowing how the artist saw their work, why they made it, how well it matched their intentions. We don't know if more than one person worked it or if people as distant from each other as hundreds of years apart might have had a hand in it. We don't know if they threw it away because it was a failed project or if it was an object of reverent veneration or masturbation.
In short, other than its physical description and a rough estimate of its age and that it was almost certainly meant to represent a female human being, nothing whatsoever is known about it. None of the speculations on anything else can possibly be science because there is no way of knowing if what is asserted is a spot on identification of its significance to the artist and others in their society who saw it or if it tells us entirely more about the anthropologists and others who are going on about it today in such a sciency manner.
Physical description, yes, that can be science, storytelling about it, no, that can't be.
I came across Jeffrey Sallit's "Recursivity" blog while researching a quote that interested me. He is a professor in the Computer Science department of The University of Waterloo, listed online as a mathematician. I posted a comment on one of his recent diatribes against his colleagues talking about religion, which led to a discussion of two topics in the social "sciences". I will write about the second one as part of the series I'm working on but the first one is so easily discussed that it hardly needs research. I've previously written on both.
I'll begin by pointing out that three days into the dispute Shallit hasn't produced arguments but has depended on reciting names, Hamilton, Haldane, Maynard-Smith, not what they claimed but merely a litany of their names. Those experienced with atheist debating tactics will know this is the infamous "argument from authority" which atheists so often hold is a logical fallacy which religious people are addicted to. Shallit has not quoted any of his cited authorities to refute my points, nor do I believe on the basis of having read some of them he could. If he can he has had three days of my pointing out his failure to back up what he was saying to do it
And, also familiar to anyone who has disputed much with online atheists, his other weapon is mockery, repeated assertions of crackpottery. Something that atheists are always whining about, "ad hominem". I'm sure that's his appeal to the prejudice of his usual atheist audience, which is the entire purpose of that debating tactic.
If Shallit can do any better would seem to be a fading prospect as he's still carrying on the way he has for three days running. We will see.
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The easy part of it is my point about that famous 35,000 year old statue that was much in the news about three and a half years ago. The one which was uniformly held by the "experts" to be typical of men's sexually ideal woman, a way back in them thar days.
At the time it was announced and, by virtue of the sex angle, all over the news, I read a lot of accounts, including the one linked to above, and noted that the "experts" were making an awful lot of baseless assumptions about why it was made, who made it and what it represented to those folks, who all died more than thirty thousand years ago, leaving no written record of what they or the artist thought of the thing.
Most telling of all was that none of the "experts" I'd seen quoted ever considered that the artist might have been a woman. That it might be a self-portrait or a portrait of the artist's mother. As their speculation cut out what was likely the thinking of, presumably, half of the population, the belief that their proposed ideal was "typical" of the time, is kind of deficient as science, not to mention mathematics. Perhaps the artist was a lesbian.
They all seemed to think that it would have been typical of the ideal of women in the presumed society its imagined artist is presumed to have been a typical member of when there is no other known representation from any presumed "culture" of that period. The next available one in time being made thousands of years after this one. How a sample of exactly one example can allow them to know that is one of those mysteries of the divination so casually practiced in the social and behavioral "sciences".
For all we know the figure was the creation of a pre-historic chubby chaser who imagined women fatter than he'd ever seen, or, maybe, it was an object of ridicule on account of its absurd proportions. I'd wonder if the teensy-little head might be an indication of that being the case but I'd never call my guess work "scientific". Maybe it was a satirical protest against a leaner though overly ample "ideal" or maybe it was a protest that fat is beautiful too.
We have no way of knowing how the artist saw their work, why they made it, how well it matched their intentions. We don't know if more than one person worked it or if people as distant from each other as hundreds of years apart might have had a hand in it. We don't know if they threw it away because it was a failed project or if it was an object of reverent veneration or masturbation.
In short, other than its physical description and a rough estimate of its age and that it was almost certainly meant to represent a female human being, nothing whatsoever is known about it. None of the speculations on anything else can possibly be science because there is no way of knowing if what is asserted is a spot on identification of its significance to the artist and others in their society who saw it or if it tells us entirely more about the anthropologists and others who are going on about it today in such a sciency manner.
Physical description, yes, that can be science, storytelling about it, no, that can't be.
New Series
I'm writing a new series, related to the topic of the one I wrote last August and September. I have decided to go more fully into one of the sections of that, one or more pieces that will take a lot of looking through my notes and trying to find online editions of things I researched the old fashioned way, from books.
It is possible that like that series, some of the parts of it will be posted out of order as they are completed.
Needless to say, I haven't yet gone back and reworked that series, as promised but still hope to put in a more final form what was written very quickly.
It is possible that like that series, some of the parts of it will be posted out of order as they are completed.
Needless to say, I haven't yet gone back and reworked that series, as promised but still hope to put in a more final form what was written very quickly.
Sunday, February 3, 2013
Dissolving The Best Thing About Us in the "Universal Acid" of Natural Selection
Part 1: The Problem of Goodness
In their eternal war against religious belief, one of the most popular arrows in the atheist's quiver is the problem of suffering, how could a God who was good allow so much and such extreme suffering. And it is a good point, one for which I'm unaware of an entirely satisfying answer. That is other than to point out that merely because we can't find a universally acceptable reason for suffering is no evidence that there isn't an entirely good reason for a good and loving God to also permit suffering. Our not being able to know something is no bar to its existence.
In their eternal war against religious belief, one of the most popular arrows in the atheist's quiver is the problem of suffering, how could a God who was good allow so much and such extreme suffering. And it is a good point, one for which I'm unaware of an entirely satisfying answer. That is other than to point out that merely because we can't find a universally acceptable reason for suffering is no evidence that there isn't an entirely good reason for a good and loving God to also permit suffering. Our not being able to know something is no bar to its existence.
One idea on that question which I've found somewhat persuasive was that suffering is part of God's giving us freedom of thought and an existence separate from God's own will. The idea that pain, used the right way, can provide a pathway away from selfishness and towards God is part of my cultural heritage as an Irish exCatholic. As much a part of that heritage is admitting that the ultimate answer to the question is a mystery, which is, actually, a sophisticated approach to such an incomprehensible problem. It is far more sophisticated than the faith of scientism that all can be explained with human science. As suffering is personal, perhaps any satisfying answer to the question of suffering is also personal. An answer that meets the needs of the individual might suffice for that person but it wouldn't satisfy others with different experience and thoughts.
Generosity as a problem is one that atheists have taken on with their ideological use of natural selection. Any atheists who don't hold the theory of natural selection as an even more popular arrow against religion, can avoid The Problem of Selflessness but I've yet to encounter one who would give it up. Among the many problems with their expropriation is that in their zeal to force the unselfish, generous behavior of human beings into their materialistic ideology they fall into a mental trap they always present as an exclusive fault in the religious, anthropocentricity. They insist on analyzing the behavior of non-humans as being the same thing as human generosity, clearly maintaining that they can know the minds of animals as foreign to us as the hymenoptera. And, surpassing any other such instance of human presumption I'm aware of, they claim their projection of human experience into ants and wasps is science.
Needless to say, all of this is not done without serious damage to the concepts and experience of generosity, selflessness and love, That abuse of making those into an abstraction in order to force them into the self-interested analysis that constitutes natural selection, is a serious issue. "Altruism" squeezed into natural selection is negated into merely a different order of selfishness. And calling the effort "science" gives those who do the illogical and impossible license to pretend they've explained what they, beyond a doubt, have not. I have to say that this is probably as serious a crime against one of the few truly fine things about us as has been done. I can't believe that any people who would willingly pervert the meaning of love in that way intend anything but a malignant purpose in doing it. Making love selfish, destroying the most basic meaning of love for their ideology, is a damning indictment of that ideology.
**** The case of Karl Marx's enthusiasm for Darwinism is particularly strange as Charles Darwin, in endorsing Ernst Haeckel's Freie Wissenschaft und freie Lehre supported Haeckel's view that Darwinism was a refutation of socialism and, in fact, supports an aristocratic system, not democracy. The overwhelming majority of Darwinists were capitalists, including Darwin. Many of them of them used Darwinism to support the most extreme versions of their ideology, Spencer, an obvious example. I haven't looked into that matter exhaustively but I think, for Marx, the inherent materialism of Darwinism accounted for his enthusiasm for it. If as obsessively careful a scholar as Marx can overlook the obvious truth, that other than it being materialistic, Darwinism is fundamentally destructive of his system, he has to have an overriding, extra-scholastic, motivation. I strongly suspect it is Marx's hostility to religious belief that accounts for his massive oversight. I have come to believe that hostility to religion has been an unstated motivation for a good part of the intellectual activity of the past two centuries.
In science, that is especially ironic, considering the obsessive, paranoid assertions of the ever present danger of religion being covertly inserted into science. I've repeatedly asked atheists for examples of the successful insertion of religion into the formal literature of science and have yet to have them provide support for their contention.
For the insertion of religion into science to work, it would have to be blatantly obvious because science can legitimately deal only with what the physical evidence shows and religion is not primarily concerned with physical evidence. Or, rather, science should be all about physical evidence. It frequently has not been, especially in the alleged study of behavior. Atheism, in the form of ideological materialism, can be far more successfully introduced into science unnoticed. I am not charging all atheists with doing that, some atheists within science have the highest professional integrity and many are simply entirely more interested in their scientific work than in a futile and, frankly, boring ideological war. Not all atheists have made that a major part of their formal work but many, especially in the allegedly scientific study of behavior, have inserted their ideology into their work and it's far past time that looking for that as a source of distortion is taken seriously.
But atheism, in the post-Darwin period, has its own enormous problem, that of unselfish, generous behavior among people. There is no way to reconcile acts and lives lived for the good of other people that costs the generous person, with natural selection. Strict natural selection would dictate that generous acts, unselfish acts, would constitute an impediment to survival of the generous individual, favoring those who benefited from their generosity over themselves. It is also a reproductive disadvantage. The theory of natural selection must see all individuals in terms of their being competitors in the struggle for survival and reproduction. It reduces all individuals to mere machines with an imperative to reproduce.
That problem was apparent from Darwin's time, it has been something wrestled against by some and actively admitted by others who championed selfishness and greed and the opposite of generosity as a means of the superior to flourish and the inferior to beneficially die. Eugenics, which arose directly and almost immediately from natural selection, was and still is one of the most popular themes of those who champion an extreme Darwinian interpretation. The history of biology, both before and after the Second World War is full of eugenicists some, such as Fischer, Haldane and Hamilton, directly advocating it, many others somewhat more coyly and covertly.
Even more obviously problematic and shocking were the assertions made by Darwin, Haeckel and others that infanticide, the murder by parents of their own children, was beneficial to the entire population. Anticipating what is said below, those assertions, especially made in The Descent of Man and in Ernst Haeckel's Natürliche Schöpfungsgeschichte - which Darwin cited with the highest praise exactly on the issue of infanticide - are a rather enormous problem for anyone who has tried to reconcile "altruism" with natural selection.
That problem was apparent from Darwin's time, it has been something wrestled against by some and actively admitted by others who championed selfishness and greed and the opposite of generosity as a means of the superior to flourish and the inferior to beneficially die. Eugenics, which arose directly and almost immediately from natural selection, was and still is one of the most popular themes of those who champion an extreme Darwinian interpretation. The history of biology, both before and after the Second World War is full of eugenicists some, such as Fischer, Haldane and Hamilton, directly advocating it, many others somewhat more coyly and covertly.
Even more obviously problematic and shocking were the assertions made by Darwin, Haeckel and others that infanticide, the murder by parents of their own children, was beneficial to the entire population. Anticipating what is said below, those assertions, especially made in The Descent of Man and in Ernst Haeckel's Natürliche Schöpfungsgeschichte - which Darwin cited with the highest praise exactly on the issue of infanticide - are a rather enormous problem for anyone who has tried to reconcile "altruism" with natural selection.
Given the pathological history of eugenics, nihilism, advocacy for infanticide and other and related products of this materialist confrontation with morals, responsible for producing enormous amounts of suffering and murder whenever it has gained legal and political influence, I'd much rather have the problem of suffering to have to explain.
Generosity as a problem is one that atheists have taken on with their ideological use of natural selection. Any atheists who don't hold the theory of natural selection as an even more popular arrow against religion, can avoid The Problem of Selflessness but I've yet to encounter one who would give it up. Among the many problems with their expropriation is that in their zeal to force the unselfish, generous behavior of human beings into their materialistic ideology they fall into a mental trap they always present as an exclusive fault in the religious, anthropocentricity. They insist on analyzing the behavior of non-humans as being the same thing as human generosity, clearly maintaining that they can know the minds of animals as foreign to us as the hymenoptera. And, surpassing any other such instance of human presumption I'm aware of, they claim their projection of human experience into ants and wasps is science.
Needless to say, all of this is not done without serious damage to the concepts and experience of generosity, selflessness and love, That abuse of making those into an abstraction in order to force them into the self-interested analysis that constitutes natural selection, is a serious issue. "Altruism" squeezed into natural selection is negated into merely a different order of selfishness. And calling the effort "science" gives those who do the illogical and impossible license to pretend they've explained what they, beyond a doubt, have not. I have to say that this is probably as serious a crime against one of the few truly fine things about us as has been done. I can't believe that any people who would willingly pervert the meaning of love in that way intend anything but a malignant purpose in doing it. Making love selfish, destroying the most basic meaning of love for their ideology, is a damning indictment of that ideology.
Ever since college when I first read about the then new discoveries of genetic drift, a far more powerful explanation of change in species over time, I've been puzzled over the widespread denial of the possibility that natural selection was not the ultimate and only mechanism of the origin of new species. If you want to enrage many biologists and, even more so, the Darwin fan club, point out that natural selection is just another theory which has changed fundamentally since Darwin first published it and which, like all theories, is vulnerable to questioning, further discoveries and, most heretically, doubt. Nothing must counter the presentation of Charles Darwin as an all seeing messiah of materialism. The ultra-Darwinists either are ignorant of or cover up the fact that Darwin, himself, believed in the inheritance of acquired traits, something that would make natural selection quite impossible*. It was not until the 1930s that natural selection was patched up with Mendelian genetics, providing it with a mechanism of inheritance that would allow it to be possible.
I used to think that the vehemence of those who insisted on the absolute supremacy of natural selection was due to professional interest and the inherent conservatism of those with a published record and a professional imperative to not disagree with the common received dogma. But I'm now convinced that is only part of the position that natural selection as an ideological requirement has among the respectable educated population. It is exactly its use as a tool of atheist ideology** that requires it to be held to be an absolute law of nature, the clearly wrong assertion that the fact of evolution is identical to the theory of natural selection.
Natural selection as the first universally influential explanatory mechanism of evolution and a scientific disproof of the literal interpretation of the creation accounts in Genesis became one of the major cultural forces of the past century and a half. It being the first such weapon of academic and popular atheism, any proposal putting its usefulness at risk will be met with rage and derision. That has happened even when it has been atheists who come up with relatively minor modifications to the theory, such as Gould and Eldredge's Punctuated Equilibrium and Gould and Lewontin's Spandrels.
I've also come to believe that a great many of the purportedly scientific assertions of natural selection were motivated by their protection of natural selection as a weapon of atheism. It is absolutely essential for people doing that for natural selection to be the ultimate and only explanation of evolution, the thing that turns people into objects, every aspect of their lives, including their cultural and moral lives into mere expressions of physical objects and forces.
Having looked hard at the history of atheists using natural selection as a weapon against religious belief, I've been struck at how soon after On the Origin of Species was first published that Darwin's theory was used ideologically in that way, asserting the scientific nature of of that ideological use***. Huxley was one of the earliest, followed close on by Ernst Haeckel, Herbert Spenser, Francis Galton, Karl Marx****,etc. Within the first decade of natural selection as a published theory, it had become the foundation of what was probably the most significant advance in atheist belief after the early atomists.
And it is still the major weapon wielded by atheism against religion, even as the vast majority of people who accept the reality of evolution, today, are religious believers. Evolution is only a problem for that minority of religious people who are scriptural fundamentalists. Other religious people, as early as Cardinal Newman and Asa Gray, found it was no problem for their religious belief. I remember in the pre-Vatican II years having nuns in the classroom, in full, traditional habit talking about how their religion was to be understood in terms of evolution. There are few things that infuriate many atheists more than a religious person who believes that evolution is the way in which God effected the creation of living beings on Earth. That belief breaks their favorite weapon against religion in half, it also deprives them of their ability to put all religious believers into the category of science-denying, ignorant, yahoos.
That stereotype, presenting religious believers in an easily understood object of ridicule has probably been far more useful to the use of Darwinism as atheist tool than science has been. And it is extremely ironic in my experience. In arguing about some of these issues with large numbers of atheists in the past several years, some of them with degrees in science topics, it has taken very little questioning to reveal that most of them are quite ignorant of the topic, their information more likely to be taken from popular media than primary source materials. Most of the foremost champions of Darwin have never read The Descent of Man and certainly have not noted or looked at his citations in that book. If they did that, alone, they could not believe what they imagine they know about many of their foremost cultural heroes. If they read the history of the idea of natural selection they could not pretend that the idea, held as the supreme force in evolution, has the power to explain a truly unselfish act done by a human being. They could not deny that the ideological theft of generosity "altruism" by Sociobiology and "Evolutionary" Psychology sacrifices the meaning of the best thing about us, our deepest and most compelling good, on their alter to natural selection.
That stereotype, presenting religious believers in an easily understood object of ridicule has probably been far more useful to the use of Darwinism as atheist tool than science has been. And it is extremely ironic in my experience. In arguing about some of these issues with large numbers of atheists in the past several years, some of them with degrees in science topics, it has taken very little questioning to reveal that most of them are quite ignorant of the topic, their information more likely to be taken from popular media than primary source materials. Most of the foremost champions of Darwin have never read The Descent of Man and certainly have not noted or looked at his citations in that book. If they did that, alone, they could not believe what they imagine they know about many of their foremost cultural heroes. If they read the history of the idea of natural selection they could not pretend that the idea, held as the supreme force in evolution, has the power to explain a truly unselfish act done by a human being. They could not deny that the ideological theft of generosity "altruism" by Sociobiology and "Evolutionary" Psychology sacrifices the meaning of the best thing about us, our deepest and most compelling good, on their alter to natural selection.
* The geneticist H. Allen Orr's elucidation of the problem is the best short one I know: This substrate neutrality argument is supremely important to Dennett. It -- and nothing else -- explains why selection can be lifted from its historical base in biology. It is what makes Darwinism so dangerous. But Dennett slips here. While it is true that many different kinds of substrate can be selected, it is simply not true that Darwinism works with any substrate, no matter what. Indeed Darwinism can't even explain old-fashioned biological evolution if the hereditary substrate doesn't behave just right. Evolution would quickly grind to a halt, for instance, if inheritance were blending, not particulate. With blending inheritance, the genetic material from two parents seamlessly blends together like different colored paints. With particulate Mendelian inheritance, genes from Mom and Dad remain forever distinct in Junior. This substrate problem was so acute that turn-of-the-century biologists -- all fans of blending inheritance -- concluded that Darwinism just can't work. Modern evolutionary genetics was born in 1930 when Sir Ronald Fisher cracked this problem: Population genetics shows that particulate Mendelian inheritance saves the day. It is just the kind of substrate needed for evolution by natural selection to work.
** As pointed out in an earlier post, the atheist blogger John Wilkins has admitted as much.
*** As a long time admirer of the great geneticist, Richard Lewontin, the frequent accusation made by today's ultra-Darwinists, that he inserts Marxist ideology in his critique of Sociobiology and "Evolutionary" Psychology, rings as supremely ironic. Malthusian ideology was the origin of Darwin's natural selection, its use by atheists to attack religion began immediately upon its publication and has continued, unabated ever since. Much of that ideological use of natural selection has been presented as science, a species of "science" which has its own history of being extremely liable to becoming fashionable before it is utterly junked.
** As pointed out in an earlier post, the atheist blogger John Wilkins has admitted as much.
*** As a long time admirer of the great geneticist, Richard Lewontin, the frequent accusation made by today's ultra-Darwinists, that he inserts Marxist ideology in his critique of Sociobiology and "Evolutionary" Psychology, rings as supremely ironic. Malthusian ideology was the origin of Darwin's natural selection, its use by atheists to attack religion began immediately upon its publication and has continued, unabated ever since. Much of that ideological use of natural selection has been presented as science, a species of "science" which has its own history of being extremely liable to becoming fashionable before it is utterly junked.
**** The case of Karl Marx's enthusiasm for Darwinism is particularly strange as Charles Darwin, in endorsing Ernst Haeckel's Freie Wissenschaft und freie Lehre supported Haeckel's view that Darwinism was a refutation of socialism and, in fact, supports an aristocratic system, not democracy. The overwhelming majority of Darwinists were capitalists, including Darwin. Many of them of them used Darwinism to support the most extreme versions of their ideology, Spencer, an obvious example. I haven't looked into that matter exhaustively but I think, for Marx, the inherent materialism of Darwinism accounted for his enthusiasm for it. If as obsessively careful a scholar as Marx can overlook the obvious truth, that other than it being materialistic, Darwinism is fundamentally destructive of his system, he has to have an overriding, extra-scholastic, motivation. I strongly suspect it is Marx's hostility to religious belief that accounts for his massive oversight. I have come to believe that hostility to religion has been an unstated motivation for a good part of the intellectual activity of the past two centuries.
In science, that is especially ironic, considering the obsessive, paranoid assertions of the ever present danger of religion being covertly inserted into science. I've repeatedly asked atheists for examples of the successful insertion of religion into the formal literature of science and have yet to have them provide support for their contention.
For the insertion of religion into science to work, it would have to be blatantly obvious because science can legitimately deal only with what the physical evidence shows and religion is not primarily concerned with physical evidence. Or, rather, science should be all about physical evidence. It frequently has not been, especially in the alleged study of behavior. Atheism, in the form of ideological materialism, can be far more successfully introduced into science unnoticed. I am not charging all atheists with doing that, some atheists within science have the highest professional integrity and many are simply entirely more interested in their scientific work than in a futile and, frankly, boring ideological war. Not all atheists have made that a major part of their formal work but many, especially in the allegedly scientific study of behavior, have inserted their ideology into their work and it's far past time that looking for that as a source of distortion is taken seriously.
Saturday, February 2, 2013
More Fun With Dialectical Materialism
When I sent yesterday's post to a friend who then looked up the SWP, the "Socialist" Workers Party, he recommended the Wikipedia article, saying it was a perfect example of what I was talking about.
While it's Wiki and, therefore, of unknowable accuracy, it seems plausible as a history typical of the communist presence in the United States in all of their "scientific" self-important silliness, impotent uselessness, baroque factionalism, adolescent and entirely non-idealistic jockeying for dominance, petty jealousy, and just about complete failure to do a single thing other than those. The parts about the various attempts at infiltrating and taking over various groups, including, disastrously, actual unions, is typical of communist groups. I can think of nothing that would have hindered unions more than becoming wound up with the eternal, divisive idiocy of the communist parties. "Union makes us strong" has not been the practice of the communists at any point in their history.
You can read it for yourself and ask yourself what sane person, looking at that kind of stuff wouldn't conclude those people were nut cases. Look at what they're up to today, no, what they're talking, not doing. They don't do much else. They've learned nothing from the lessons of their own history, odd where their "scientific" view of history has led them.
While it's Wiki and, therefore, of unknowable accuracy, it seems plausible as a history typical of the communist presence in the United States in all of their "scientific" self-important silliness, impotent uselessness, baroque factionalism, adolescent and entirely non-idealistic jockeying for dominance, petty jealousy, and just about complete failure to do a single thing other than those. The parts about the various attempts at infiltrating and taking over various groups, including, disastrously, actual unions, is typical of communist groups. I can think of nothing that would have hindered unions more than becoming wound up with the eternal, divisive idiocy of the communist parties. "Union makes us strong" has not been the practice of the communists at any point in their history.
You can read it for yourself and ask yourself what sane person, looking at that kind of stuff wouldn't conclude those people were nut cases. Look at what they're up to today, no, what they're talking, not doing. They don't do much else. They've learned nothing from the lessons of their own history, odd where their "scientific" view of history has led them.
Friday, February 1, 2013
From an Old Blog Post Apropos of Today's
A rule of thumb: any political party that has produced more splinters than office holders defines “politically failed”.
On A Venerable Beau
Still hovering round the fair at sixty-four
Unfit for love, unable to give o’re.
A flesh fly, that just flutters on the wing,
Awake to buzz, but not alive to sting;
Brisk where he cannot, backward where he can,
The teasing ghost of the departed man.
David Mallet 18th cen.
Being Done With The Sterile Strife of the Communists
Expanding on a theme I touched on the other day, let me break this to you, after more than a century of efforts the myriad and eternally splintering array of communist parties in the United States have never produced and will never produce anything of use to working people and poor people.
Their use has been entirely to the benefit of the enemies of workers and the poor, as an all too willing weapon against progress. I say "all too willing" because much if not most of the material turning them into weapons against progress have been provided by the communists, themselves.
Other than that the one and only thing that the communists have achieved is their own victimhood during the red scares of the past century. Yes, they were the victims of a violation of their civil liberties by the House UnAmerican Activities Committee, Red Channels, the American Legion, the Hollywood Black list and many others who targeted communists and anyone they could tar with an association with communism. I grew up on stories of that victim hood, deplored the members of the HUAC and Judge Kaufman and Irving Saypol and, especially David Greenglass. And I still do, though I also deplore the role that Julius Rosenberg had in nuclear proliferation, as well.
That victimization is certainly wrong but it is certainly not on the same order as that of racial, ethnic and other minority groups. And a lot of it was the results of provocation. Their idiotic, futile, counterproductive agitprop handed their enemies a gold mine of quotations to use. And that junk always was obviously futile and stupid. It was and is designed mostly to get attention for one tiny faction of communists or a single communist from other members of tiny cults of communism. Looking at a lot of the websites of various communist parties, I see the same old absurdly overblown wind that is more likely to elicit rolled eyes than progress that has marked communist rhetoric since Marx wrote his failed manifesto in 1848. For example:
The Revolutionary Communist Party, USA has taken on the responsibility to lead revolution in the U.S., the belly of the imperialist beast, as its principal share of the world revolution and the ultimate aim of communism. This Party is built on and takes as its foundation the new synthesis of communism that has been brought forward through the body of work and method and approach of Bob Avakian. Its members are united in their profound desire for a radically different and better world, and their understanding of the need for revolution to get to that world. They have dedicated themselves wholeheartedly to revolution, and on the basis of that they channel their individual abilities and passions to the cause and needs of this revolution.
Let it be asked, aren't you reassured that they've taken on that responsibility? If you want to go to their website for even more absurd, empty and futile rhetoric, they're easy enough to find. I'd especially recommend looking at the link to Bob Avakian "The Vision, The Works, The Leadership for a New Stage of Communist Revolution", and then comparing it to the rhetoric of the LaRouche cult, remembering that Lyndon LaRouche began as a Trot and a member of the SWP.
You could look on just about any other communist party site in the United States and other English speaking countries and reproduce the tedious experience of reading the absurd blather dozens of times over. I have not found any record of success in even those parties that have either been in existence for decades not to mention in those tiny cells that viciously and vituperatively split from them to assert their higher correctness and right to lead the revolution. Some come with long atheological arguments based in Marx, Engels, Lenin, Trotsky, Mao, etc. etc. etc. proving their case with admirable and excruciating citation and explanation. I'm unaware of any medieval theology that quite matches some of those in absurdly detailed assertion.
Other than the litanies of the historical victimhood, the other thing that the communists have consciously achieved was gulling the left into feeling sorry for them and championing their rights in all of their anti-democratic, dictator promoting, divisive futility. In one of my earliest pieces I said I won't be fair to fascists, I won't be nice to Nazis. You can add that I won't cooperate with communists, I won't be co-opted by them. The Revolutionary Communist Party is a Maoist party, Mao was responsible for the deaths of tens of millions of people and the enslavement of hundreds of millions. His incompetence in dictating agricultural practices on the basis of his theories was a total disaster. Others among the communists are Leninists or Stalinists or Trotskyites, all men who either had oceans of blood on their hands or would have if they'd not been shoved aside, in the case of Trotsky. There is no reason to ignore that, there is every reason that acknowledging it is as much a moral requirement as acknowledging the crimes of the Nazis and fascists.
And for all of that liberals of the past and today are stupid to give them a single second more or our efforts. Just as I hold that we owe Nazis nothing and they should assert their free speech rights to advocate murder and slavery and war without our time and resources, I hold we owe communists nothing more as they advocate the same, exact things. I don't think we owe them so much as the bucket of spit that so many an amicus brief to the Supreme Court has been.
I am a socialist, I believe that the workers, those who produce wealth, should be the sole owners of the means of production. I hold that is a fundamental human right and the privileges of capital are nothing but a form of legalized theft. It is as a socialist that I particularly resent the position of the communists in the history of the past two centuries. They've done more to discredit socialism than all of the capitalists put together.
A Note About The Last Stalinist
During the Senate campaign of Ned Lamont against the putrid and thankfully gone Joe Lieberman, Lieberman's supporters and the official Republicans went after him due to him being the unfortunate nephew of the late Corliss Lamont. I read on several blogs the assertion that Corliss Lamont was not a Stalinist, presumably because the people bringing that up weren't credible. Unfortunately, there was no honest debate to be had on that. Corliss Lamont was probably the last Stalinist in the United States, active in denying the atrocities committed under Stalin right up till he died and the Kremlin started denouncing his crimes. As late as 1952 Corliss Lamont was publishing The Myth of Soviet Aggression, no doubt for the fertile grounds he imagined existed in the U.S. Of course Ned Lamont had no responsibility for his foolish uncle, the trust fund baby Stalinist. But any leftist who misrepresents Corliss Lamont is responsible for lying about history. It also requires asking if there isn't a corrupt motive in pretending his record isn't what it so obviously is.
Corliss Lamont's hands are all over all kinds of groups which he more or less bought or bought influence in with his money, Including the ACLU and the Humanists for a good part of their history. Any group that had a major association with a supporter of a fascist dictator would rightly be seen as needing to distance themselves and explain themselves. On the basis of the moral imperative that someone who is responsible for a genocidal mass murder is a genocidal mass murderer and those who support them are supporting genocide, those institutions that had a major association with Corliss Lamont really need to clarify things.
Their use has been entirely to the benefit of the enemies of workers and the poor, as an all too willing weapon against progress. I say "all too willing" because much if not most of the material turning them into weapons against progress have been provided by the communists, themselves.
Other than that the one and only thing that the communists have achieved is their own victimhood during the red scares of the past century. Yes, they were the victims of a violation of their civil liberties by the House UnAmerican Activities Committee, Red Channels, the American Legion, the Hollywood Black list and many others who targeted communists and anyone they could tar with an association with communism. I grew up on stories of that victim hood, deplored the members of the HUAC and Judge Kaufman and Irving Saypol and, especially David Greenglass. And I still do, though I also deplore the role that Julius Rosenberg had in nuclear proliferation, as well.
That victimization is certainly wrong but it is certainly not on the same order as that of racial, ethnic and other minority groups. And a lot of it was the results of provocation. Their idiotic, futile, counterproductive agitprop handed their enemies a gold mine of quotations to use. And that junk always was obviously futile and stupid. It was and is designed mostly to get attention for one tiny faction of communists or a single communist from other members of tiny cults of communism. Looking at a lot of the websites of various communist parties, I see the same old absurdly overblown wind that is more likely to elicit rolled eyes than progress that has marked communist rhetoric since Marx wrote his failed manifesto in 1848. For example:
The Revolutionary Communist Party, USA has taken on the responsibility to lead revolution in the U.S., the belly of the imperialist beast, as its principal share of the world revolution and the ultimate aim of communism. This Party is built on and takes as its foundation the new synthesis of communism that has been brought forward through the body of work and method and approach of Bob Avakian. Its members are united in their profound desire for a radically different and better world, and their understanding of the need for revolution to get to that world. They have dedicated themselves wholeheartedly to revolution, and on the basis of that they channel their individual abilities and passions to the cause and needs of this revolution.
Let it be asked, aren't you reassured that they've taken on that responsibility? If you want to go to their website for even more absurd, empty and futile rhetoric, they're easy enough to find. I'd especially recommend looking at the link to Bob Avakian "The Vision, The Works, The Leadership for a New Stage of Communist Revolution", and then comparing it to the rhetoric of the LaRouche cult, remembering that Lyndon LaRouche began as a Trot and a member of the SWP.
You could look on just about any other communist party site in the United States and other English speaking countries and reproduce the tedious experience of reading the absurd blather dozens of times over. I have not found any record of success in even those parties that have either been in existence for decades not to mention in those tiny cells that viciously and vituperatively split from them to assert their higher correctness and right to lead the revolution. Some come with long atheological arguments based in Marx, Engels, Lenin, Trotsky, Mao, etc. etc. etc. proving their case with admirable and excruciating citation and explanation. I'm unaware of any medieval theology that quite matches some of those in absurdly detailed assertion.
Other than the litanies of the historical victimhood, the other thing that the communists have consciously achieved was gulling the left into feeling sorry for them and championing their rights in all of their anti-democratic, dictator promoting, divisive futility. In one of my earliest pieces I said I won't be fair to fascists, I won't be nice to Nazis. You can add that I won't cooperate with communists, I won't be co-opted by them. The Revolutionary Communist Party is a Maoist party, Mao was responsible for the deaths of tens of millions of people and the enslavement of hundreds of millions. His incompetence in dictating agricultural practices on the basis of his theories was a total disaster. Others among the communists are Leninists or Stalinists or Trotskyites, all men who either had oceans of blood on their hands or would have if they'd not been shoved aside, in the case of Trotsky. There is no reason to ignore that, there is every reason that acknowledging it is as much a moral requirement as acknowledging the crimes of the Nazis and fascists.
And for all of that liberals of the past and today are stupid to give them a single second more or our efforts. Just as I hold that we owe Nazis nothing and they should assert their free speech rights to advocate murder and slavery and war without our time and resources, I hold we owe communists nothing more as they advocate the same, exact things. I don't think we owe them so much as the bucket of spit that so many an amicus brief to the Supreme Court has been.
I am a socialist, I believe that the workers, those who produce wealth, should be the sole owners of the means of production. I hold that is a fundamental human right and the privileges of capital are nothing but a form of legalized theft. It is as a socialist that I particularly resent the position of the communists in the history of the past two centuries. They've done more to discredit socialism than all of the capitalists put together.
A Note About The Last Stalinist
During the Senate campaign of Ned Lamont against the putrid and thankfully gone Joe Lieberman, Lieberman's supporters and the official Republicans went after him due to him being the unfortunate nephew of the late Corliss Lamont. I read on several blogs the assertion that Corliss Lamont was not a Stalinist, presumably because the people bringing that up weren't credible. Unfortunately, there was no honest debate to be had on that. Corliss Lamont was probably the last Stalinist in the United States, active in denying the atrocities committed under Stalin right up till he died and the Kremlin started denouncing his crimes. As late as 1952 Corliss Lamont was publishing The Myth of Soviet Aggression, no doubt for the fertile grounds he imagined existed in the U.S. Of course Ned Lamont had no responsibility for his foolish uncle, the trust fund baby Stalinist. But any leftist who misrepresents Corliss Lamont is responsible for lying about history. It also requires asking if there isn't a corrupt motive in pretending his record isn't what it so obviously is.
Corliss Lamont's hands are all over all kinds of groups which he more or less bought or bought influence in with his money, Including the ACLU and the Humanists for a good part of their history. Any group that had a major association with a supporter of a fascist dictator would rightly be seen as needing to distance themselves and explain themselves. On the basis of the moral imperative that someone who is responsible for a genocidal mass murder is a genocidal mass murderer and those who support them are supporting genocide, those institutions that had a major association with Corliss Lamont really need to clarify things.
Wednesday, January 30, 2013
Political Identity As If People And Other Living Things Mattered
Someone has asked me why I'm always going on about people being considered as objects, so I'll go into this again.
It was about a decade ago, shortly after I went online and started visiting leftish websites, reading, sometimes in horror, some of the things that I read there.
One day, reading a comment by an old-line lefty who I guess was about my age, to the effect that science had proven free will is a myth, I realized that was a belief which was fundamentally destructive of anything that can usefully be considered to constitute liberalism. If people are merely objects then there is nothing wrong with treating them unequally, in terms of usefulness, of exploiting them for any and all purposes. If people are held to be merely objects then the only rule which will prevail is what stronger people in any situation can get away with doing to them. People will be subjected to the same legal and social rules that have governed peoples' use of animals and plants. That is unless something higher than objectification and utility is forced on those who are reluctantly required to treat them as more than that.
I suppose another thing that led to that moment of clarity came from being exposed to more porn than I'd ever seen in my prior three-plus decades in the gay community. Which explains my presumed apostasy on that issue as well.
There is something seriously wrong with an analysis of political identity which would allow someone allegedly on the left to maintain positions that are identical in their effect on living beings to those of Nazis and fascists. I have heard people held to be on the far left who have not only denied the mass murders, attempted genocides and slave labor under various "leftist" governments, on some occasions I've heard such "leftists" admit those but excuse them as having served some kind of progress. As reasonable a lefty as the late, lamented Alexander Cockburn excused Stalin as not being as bad as Hitler because you could serve in the Red Army while being Jewish. I'm not aware of him ever going over the "Jewish Doctors Plot", Stalin's last paranoid attempt at genocide, cut short only by his death. Even the Soviet government had to publish an exoneration of Jewish doctors on that one, several years before Khrushchev's denunciation of the decades of murders by Stalin. That famous speech was delivered much to the horror of so many Marxists in the West who had spent those decades denying that those were happening. Why that, alone, didn't discredit them as much as the revelation of the Nazis massive war crimes did his apologists strikes me as being a crucial issue in why liberalism has failed for so long. I believe that there is a lot about how we need to change things to be learned in that history.
Marxism and its various sects as the final destiny on the ray pointing left from the political center has always been an ideologically fraudulent ruse, useful to both the Marxists and the far right, damaging mostly to those who legitimately hold that position. The fraudulence is based in the fact that both Marxists and fascists hold the same basic ideology that people are objects. From that position their entire, real world, political identity unfolds. Both will make some kind of weird, quasi-mystical pronouncements about "the people" in terms of nationality or as a mass but only as a physical force of nature which might be diverted in this or that direction, Expending many individuals within that mass to accomplish their ends is seen as a good, which also turn out to be not all that different when it's goal is a dictatorship of "the people" or rule by a centralized power. Marxists who hold that the tens of millions of murders BY MARXISTS, under Stalin or Mao somehow serve a more important purpose have a vision of the ultimate goal that isn't much different from what was supposed to happen after the German nation ruled the world. In what is, I'm sure, an extremely controversial but entirely supportable point, it wasn't much different from what Charles Darwin seems to have imagined would happen when the "weaker members" including entire races of the human species were killed by the stronger. Only, in his case, since it was Brits he imagined among the evolutionary winners, nice polite people are required to ignore he said the same thing.
My proposal is to judge political identity based on the extent to which people are not held to be objects but to be, as the American philosopher Paul Weiss once said, " a locus of rights". But, also controversially, I reject the attempt to do that in secular terms because I have seen how the concept of people as the equal holders of real, inherent rights has fared under atheist regimes of thought. I have absolutely no faith that a secular view of people will ever continue to hold that concept as an absolute reality, anymore. Not after witnessing the left's decisively and damnably mild reaction to the revelation of the crimes of Stalin, Mao and their client states during my lifetime on the left. I won't ignore that failure out of some alleged "higher purpose".
Secularism should be the sole preserve of a democratic government of the wonderfully diverse individual people who make up its only legitimate basis. That requirement is a requirement of equality as well as efficiently removing some potential areas of contention from the mechanisms of government. Secularism isn't, itself, some kind of spiritual goal and ideal. It cannot and will not ever be a legitimate requirement for human beings. The People are the only legitimate source of government. But it is a fundamental denial of the humanity of those people to deny their spiritual and, yes, RELIGIOUS identities. It would be as legitimate to deny the genders, races, nationalities and sexual identities of people, the other categories that have wisely been acknowledged by some of the best and most idealistically democratic laws we have ever adopted. If religious liberals self-censor their words, as has so frequently happened on the left in the face of atheist coercion, their political purpose is subverted. When those who enforce the suppression of religious thought are the kind of materialists who hold that people are objects with little to no individual importance and that the masses are a force of nature, all important, then the left will find itself impotently supporting the most anti-liberal of ideas and policies and even some of the greatest mass murderers in history. The people murdered by Stalin and Mao are as dead as those murdered by the Nazis and the Rios Montt junta in Guatamala. There was a reason that the fascists in Central America targeted religious liberals.
If you're going to insist on a line of political identity, the resulting body counts of different ideological positions are a far more legitimate factor in placing people on it than the economic babbling of theoreticians. We, on the real left, have got nothing in common with people who make excuses for the mass murders of Mao or Stalin. We never did, we will never be credible as long as we allow them to pretend we do. Maybe refusing to go along with that criminal negligence will get them to reconsider. It did me.
UPDATE: A perceptive reader has pointed out that the title ironically refers to people as "things". I'll have to admit you got me. When I came up with it I was thinking of the old poster about war being unhealthy for people and other living things as well as the subtitle of Small is Beautiful "economics as if people mattered". I'll try to be less artsy and more accurate, at least till I forget this lesson.
It was about a decade ago, shortly after I went online and started visiting leftish websites, reading, sometimes in horror, some of the things that I read there.
One day, reading a comment by an old-line lefty who I guess was about my age, to the effect that science had proven free will is a myth, I realized that was a belief which was fundamentally destructive of anything that can usefully be considered to constitute liberalism. If people are merely objects then there is nothing wrong with treating them unequally, in terms of usefulness, of exploiting them for any and all purposes. If people are held to be merely objects then the only rule which will prevail is what stronger people in any situation can get away with doing to them. People will be subjected to the same legal and social rules that have governed peoples' use of animals and plants. That is unless something higher than objectification and utility is forced on those who are reluctantly required to treat them as more than that.
I suppose another thing that led to that moment of clarity came from being exposed to more porn than I'd ever seen in my prior three-plus decades in the gay community. Which explains my presumed apostasy on that issue as well.
There is something seriously wrong with an analysis of political identity which would allow someone allegedly on the left to maintain positions that are identical in their effect on living beings to those of Nazis and fascists. I have heard people held to be on the far left who have not only denied the mass murders, attempted genocides and slave labor under various "leftist" governments, on some occasions I've heard such "leftists" admit those but excuse them as having served some kind of progress. As reasonable a lefty as the late, lamented Alexander Cockburn excused Stalin as not being as bad as Hitler because you could serve in the Red Army while being Jewish. I'm not aware of him ever going over the "Jewish Doctors Plot", Stalin's last paranoid attempt at genocide, cut short only by his death. Even the Soviet government had to publish an exoneration of Jewish doctors on that one, several years before Khrushchev's denunciation of the decades of murders by Stalin. That famous speech was delivered much to the horror of so many Marxists in the West who had spent those decades denying that those were happening. Why that, alone, didn't discredit them as much as the revelation of the Nazis massive war crimes did his apologists strikes me as being a crucial issue in why liberalism has failed for so long. I believe that there is a lot about how we need to change things to be learned in that history.
Marxism and its various sects as the final destiny on the ray pointing left from the political center has always been an ideologically fraudulent ruse, useful to both the Marxists and the far right, damaging mostly to those who legitimately hold that position. The fraudulence is based in the fact that both Marxists and fascists hold the same basic ideology that people are objects. From that position their entire, real world, political identity unfolds. Both will make some kind of weird, quasi-mystical pronouncements about "the people" in terms of nationality or as a mass but only as a physical force of nature which might be diverted in this or that direction, Expending many individuals within that mass to accomplish their ends is seen as a good, which also turn out to be not all that different when it's goal is a dictatorship of "the people" or rule by a centralized power. Marxists who hold that the tens of millions of murders BY MARXISTS, under Stalin or Mao somehow serve a more important purpose have a vision of the ultimate goal that isn't much different from what was supposed to happen after the German nation ruled the world. In what is, I'm sure, an extremely controversial but entirely supportable point, it wasn't much different from what Charles Darwin seems to have imagined would happen when the "weaker members" including entire races of the human species were killed by the stronger. Only, in his case, since it was Brits he imagined among the evolutionary winners, nice polite people are required to ignore he said the same thing.
My proposal is to judge political identity based on the extent to which people are not held to be objects but to be, as the American philosopher Paul Weiss once said, " a locus of rights". But, also controversially, I reject the attempt to do that in secular terms because I have seen how the concept of people as the equal holders of real, inherent rights has fared under atheist regimes of thought. I have absolutely no faith that a secular view of people will ever continue to hold that concept as an absolute reality, anymore. Not after witnessing the left's decisively and damnably mild reaction to the revelation of the crimes of Stalin, Mao and their client states during my lifetime on the left. I won't ignore that failure out of some alleged "higher purpose".
Secularism should be the sole preserve of a democratic government of the wonderfully diverse individual people who make up its only legitimate basis. That requirement is a requirement of equality as well as efficiently removing some potential areas of contention from the mechanisms of government. Secularism isn't, itself, some kind of spiritual goal and ideal. It cannot and will not ever be a legitimate requirement for human beings. The People are the only legitimate source of government. But it is a fundamental denial of the humanity of those people to deny their spiritual and, yes, RELIGIOUS identities. It would be as legitimate to deny the genders, races, nationalities and sexual identities of people, the other categories that have wisely been acknowledged by some of the best and most idealistically democratic laws we have ever adopted. If religious liberals self-censor their words, as has so frequently happened on the left in the face of atheist coercion, their political purpose is subverted. When those who enforce the suppression of religious thought are the kind of materialists who hold that people are objects with little to no individual importance and that the masses are a force of nature, all important, then the left will find itself impotently supporting the most anti-liberal of ideas and policies and even some of the greatest mass murderers in history. The people murdered by Stalin and Mao are as dead as those murdered by the Nazis and the Rios Montt junta in Guatamala. There was a reason that the fascists in Central America targeted religious liberals.
If you're going to insist on a line of political identity, the resulting body counts of different ideological positions are a far more legitimate factor in placing people on it than the economic babbling of theoreticians. We, on the real left, have got nothing in common with people who make excuses for the mass murders of Mao or Stalin. We never did, we will never be credible as long as we allow them to pretend we do. Maybe refusing to go along with that criminal negligence will get them to reconsider. It did me.
UPDATE: A perceptive reader has pointed out that the title ironically refers to people as "things". I'll have to admit you got me. When I came up with it I was thinking of the old poster about war being unhealthy for people and other living things as well as the subtitle of Small is Beautiful "economics as if people mattered". I'll try to be less artsy and more accurate, at least till I forget this lesson.
Tuesday, January 29, 2013
About The Inviolable St. Penn Jillette and his Faithful
Contrary to a post I did the other day, an e-mail filter doesn't catch everything and so the outraged screed of a fan of that well known scientist and intellectual, Penn Jillette, got into the Inbox. The next one using that particular stream of characters won't.
I should do this as an update to yesterdays post but, really, he's so obnoxious, such an asshole and his fans are so stupidly fawning and adoring of him and they get so flipped out over someone irreverently doing to their demi-god what he has made a career out of doing, saying bad things about someone, that I'm going to take the opportunity to point out yet again that Penn Jillette is one of the atheist pseudo-skeptics who are always telling everyone in the world how stupid they are for NOT BELIEVING EXACTLY WHAT PENN JILLETTE AND THE REST OF THE ATHEIST PSEUDO-SKEPTICS ORDER THEM TO BELIEVE! He also poses as a freethinking libertarian when what he really is is a cowardly intellectual bully who demands that people think in his rigid, primitively scientistic materialist way, demanding that and demeaning non-conformists from the safety of venues he and his production team are in control of or where he will be allowed to scream and bluster like others who share his particular field at the high compensation-sub basement quality ass end of the show-biz industry like Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, and Mike Savage. As a comedian, he is, as pointed out yesterday, only able to get other conceited assholes like himself to laugh at other people so they can pretend they are superior to them while missing, completely, that the only real joke is that he appeals mostly to ignorant boys like him who have never progressed emotionally past the terrible twos and never progressed intellectually past the 8th grade. And I don't mean 8th graders who were mature for their age.
Now, if any of you Penn Jillette fans would like me to elaborate and tell you what I really think of him, yes, I can do that.
I should do this as an update to yesterdays post but, really, he's so obnoxious, such an asshole and his fans are so stupidly fawning and adoring of him and they get so flipped out over someone irreverently doing to their demi-god what he has made a career out of doing, saying bad things about someone, that I'm going to take the opportunity to point out yet again that Penn Jillette is one of the atheist pseudo-skeptics who are always telling everyone in the world how stupid they are for NOT BELIEVING EXACTLY WHAT PENN JILLETTE AND THE REST OF THE ATHEIST PSEUDO-SKEPTICS ORDER THEM TO BELIEVE! He also poses as a freethinking libertarian when what he really is is a cowardly intellectual bully who demands that people think in his rigid, primitively scientistic materialist way, demanding that and demeaning non-conformists from the safety of venues he and his production team are in control of or where he will be allowed to scream and bluster like others who share his particular field at the high compensation-sub basement quality ass end of the show-biz industry like Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, and Mike Savage. As a comedian, he is, as pointed out yesterday, only able to get other conceited assholes like himself to laugh at other people so they can pretend they are superior to them while missing, completely, that the only real joke is that he appeals mostly to ignorant boys like him who have never progressed emotionally past the terrible twos and never progressed intellectually past the 8th grade. And I don't mean 8th graders who were mature for their age.
Now, if any of you Penn Jillette fans would like me to elaborate and tell you what I really think of him, yes, I can do that.
Monday, January 28, 2013
On Being Required By Atheists To Worship George Carlin
The Thought Criminal began the month noting how one is supposed to genuflect when John Lennon's dyspeptic atheist dirge "Imagine" is intoned by the talentless and idealess, pointing that out to apparently great umbrage by the hiply cynical and atheist. Which is funny in itself. I've been noting that kind of thing for as long as I've been online when I first noticed the ironic truth of that kind of thing. Noting the fact that John Lennon was a heck of a lot less talented on his own than he was when he was writing songs with Paul and others and that none of the frequently Drab Four were all that talented, will elicit a febrile outrage which is usually the preserve of the insanely nationalistic and fundamentalist.
Last summer I noted the same about the consequences of being honest about the professional asshole, hate-talking thief of talented magician's material in order to destroy its intended value, and entirely unimportant self-promoting non-intellectual , definitely non-scientist, Penn Jillette. One is not to point out that Jillette is an asshole's asshole and that Teller is probably saved from exposing himself as the same only because his shtick is to keep his mouth shut.
The list of atheist idols one is not to diss on pain of being declared to have cooties includes the oneest of one-trick ponies Douglass Adams, the citation of whom is about as sure a sign of lazy slackerdom with pretensions of being intellectual as is currently available Really, aren't we all just waiting for the next incarnation of "Hitchhikers Guide" about as much as we are the inevitable "Oxygentank" tour of The Rolling Stones if Mick and at least one of his elderly Stones can breathe and hobble long enough? Adam's estate has been milking that property for many millions of times what it was ever worth.
The same is true in a smaller way for the estates of two other idols of atheist culture, Carl Sagan and the absolutely putrid neo-con and intellectual hooker, Christopher Hitchens. But they'll never reach the same stature as Lennon, Jillette and Adams. I suspect that another professional asshole of limited talent, Ricky Gervaise, will join the panthon of the Prometheus set. The formula is that you have to be an intellectually unchallenging, anti-religious hate talker who makes the unintellectual, hate talking atheist feel that they're superior to the vast majority of the population. Having a Brit accent is a big plus because the Brits produce an enormous number of the type and so many of the American atheists are rather shameless Anglophiles but it's not strictly required. At least not on this side of the Atlantic.
For the past few weeks I've been experimenting on blog atheists using another of the tediously over-cited gods of the godless, George Carlin. I remember his early stuff on TV, which was kind of funny. But he was never going to be a great comic on the strength of that. His beatnik themed act was pretty limited and he lacked the original genius and power of a Richard Pryor or Lilly Tomlin. As he got older and, I'd guess, increasingly desperate at the limits of his talent he started developing his anti-religious routine. He had enough experience and just enough intelligence to see the possibilities of getting hold of the same market share that Bill Maher has harvested after Carlin's death.
I heard Carlin doing it before I realized that he was getting more and more boring as he became preachier and nastier and appealed to a bunch of snobs based on their self-aggrandizing sterotypes of the vast majority of humanity. Cynicism doesn't have any power to change things - the original conceit of the Carlin style of humor - because it, frankly, despises most people. It can get the conceited to laugh at other people, which is far easier than even taking a pie in the pants but it is entirely useless to change anything.
Really, that is the supposed reason for that kind of alleged humor, that it is useful to defeat the fascists. And that reason is a demonstrable fraud. Looking back at the far, far more talented cabaret acts of the pre-Nazi period, really some of the most brilliant of performers and writers in the genre, it was less than useless in preventing the catastrophe that was so obviously coming. That's not an original idea, I've read other people who also noticed how that didn't work in the inter-war period. Nor will it ever because cynicism is an expression of the negation of values, which underlies fascism. You can't fight cynicism with cynicism. Trying that can only enhance cynicism, not anything else. The increasing cynicism of alleged comedy in the 1970s led to the past thirty years of conservative resurgence here. It undermined Jimmy Carter and did nothing to prevent Reagan or keep the Bush Crime Family from stealing the election in 2000.
The REAL REASON for that kind of stuff is to get the market share of conceited people who believe themselves to be enlightened while being, at the same time, insufficiently educated to keep themselves entertained by something other than themselves and their self regard. A relatively talentless performer like Bill Maher, George Carlin and Penn Jillette can rope in those suckers by feeding them on that. A truly smart and cynical performer will realize that's what they're doing but most of them aren't in on the biggest joke of their career. They're true believers as well.
Note: I've got no problem experimenting on those who are always asserting that science is the exclusive property of their ideology.
Also note, I've had a number of complaints that I've written so much about atheism. No one seems to be upset with the enormous presence atheist hate-talk has on the blogs and in the media. If PZ Myers, Greta Christina, Jerry Coyne, Penn Jillette, etc. can become famous by talking hate about more than 90% of the population that makes talking about the atheists entirely legitimate. I will make no apology in exploring the phenomenon and its adherents any more than I have in looking closely at Republican-fascists. I find that the two groups have a lot more in common than they'd like pointed out.
Last summer I noted the same about the consequences of being honest about the professional asshole, hate-talking thief of talented magician's material in order to destroy its intended value, and entirely unimportant self-promoting non-intellectual , definitely non-scientist, Penn Jillette. One is not to point out that Jillette is an asshole's asshole and that Teller is probably saved from exposing himself as the same only because his shtick is to keep his mouth shut.
The list of atheist idols one is not to diss on pain of being declared to have cooties includes the oneest of one-trick ponies Douglass Adams, the citation of whom is about as sure a sign of lazy slackerdom with pretensions of being intellectual as is currently available Really, aren't we all just waiting for the next incarnation of "Hitchhikers Guide" about as much as we are the inevitable "Oxygentank" tour of The Rolling Stones if Mick and at least one of his elderly Stones can breathe and hobble long enough? Adam's estate has been milking that property for many millions of times what it was ever worth.
The same is true in a smaller way for the estates of two other idols of atheist culture, Carl Sagan and the absolutely putrid neo-con and intellectual hooker, Christopher Hitchens. But they'll never reach the same stature as Lennon, Jillette and Adams. I suspect that another professional asshole of limited talent, Ricky Gervaise, will join the panthon of the Prometheus set. The formula is that you have to be an intellectually unchallenging, anti-religious hate talker who makes the unintellectual, hate talking atheist feel that they're superior to the vast majority of the population. Having a Brit accent is a big plus because the Brits produce an enormous number of the type and so many of the American atheists are rather shameless Anglophiles but it's not strictly required. At least not on this side of the Atlantic.
For the past few weeks I've been experimenting on blog atheists using another of the tediously over-cited gods of the godless, George Carlin. I remember his early stuff on TV, which was kind of funny. But he was never going to be a great comic on the strength of that. His beatnik themed act was pretty limited and he lacked the original genius and power of a Richard Pryor or Lilly Tomlin. As he got older and, I'd guess, increasingly desperate at the limits of his talent he started developing his anti-religious routine. He had enough experience and just enough intelligence to see the possibilities of getting hold of the same market share that Bill Maher has harvested after Carlin's death.
I heard Carlin doing it before I realized that he was getting more and more boring as he became preachier and nastier and appealed to a bunch of snobs based on their self-aggrandizing sterotypes of the vast majority of humanity. Cynicism doesn't have any power to change things - the original conceit of the Carlin style of humor - because it, frankly, despises most people. It can get the conceited to laugh at other people, which is far easier than even taking a pie in the pants but it is entirely useless to change anything.
Really, that is the supposed reason for that kind of alleged humor, that it is useful to defeat the fascists. And that reason is a demonstrable fraud. Looking back at the far, far more talented cabaret acts of the pre-Nazi period, really some of the most brilliant of performers and writers in the genre, it was less than useless in preventing the catastrophe that was so obviously coming. That's not an original idea, I've read other people who also noticed how that didn't work in the inter-war period. Nor will it ever because cynicism is an expression of the negation of values, which underlies fascism. You can't fight cynicism with cynicism. Trying that can only enhance cynicism, not anything else. The increasing cynicism of alleged comedy in the 1970s led to the past thirty years of conservative resurgence here. It undermined Jimmy Carter and did nothing to prevent Reagan or keep the Bush Crime Family from stealing the election in 2000.
The REAL REASON for that kind of stuff is to get the market share of conceited people who believe themselves to be enlightened while being, at the same time, insufficiently educated to keep themselves entertained by something other than themselves and their self regard. A relatively talentless performer like Bill Maher, George Carlin and Penn Jillette can rope in those suckers by feeding them on that. A truly smart and cynical performer will realize that's what they're doing but most of them aren't in on the biggest joke of their career. They're true believers as well.
Note: I've got no problem experimenting on those who are always asserting that science is the exclusive property of their ideology.
Also note, I've had a number of complaints that I've written so much about atheism. No one seems to be upset with the enormous presence atheist hate-talk has on the blogs and in the media. If PZ Myers, Greta Christina, Jerry Coyne, Penn Jillette, etc. can become famous by talking hate about more than 90% of the population that makes talking about the atheists entirely legitimate. I will make no apology in exploring the phenomenon and its adherents any more than I have in looking closely at Republican-fascists. I find that the two groups have a lot more in common than they'd like pointed out.
Sunday, January 27, 2013
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