Saturday, March 16, 2019

You Can't Understand The Motives Of Murderers Without Looking At The Media That Informs Their Decisions

I haven't looked at the New Zealand mass murderer's so-called manifesto yet, though I understand among perhaps others it credits Americans like Trump and Candice Owens who he could only have seen in the media as inspiring him to open fire on peaceful Muslims killing children as well as adults.   Some are saying he mentioned being inspired by Owens as a joke, I've listened to her bizarre act of promoting white supremacist tropes while having a black face - the typical act of Black conservatives in the United States - and think we have to assume he really meant it.  The skank LOLed the actual shootings, as far as I'm concerned, she proved her own guilt in that.  She isn't the only neo-fascist youth celebrity that had the kind of reaction she did.     Milo Yiannopoulos did too.   These people shouldn't have any place in mass media because they inspire these kinds of things. 

That the murderer was Australian instantly reminded me of the comment on Chris Hayes show about the three countries Rupert Murdoch had his greatest success in, Australia, Britain and the United States all being in the control of successful right-wing movements.   I don't know the extent to which New Zealand joins in that but I was kind of shocked to find that he could buy the high power military style weapons that he used to kill his victims there.  I'd have imagined New Zealand wouldn't be as loony as the United States in that regard.   Of course, now Trump is warning that if he is removed from power, his followers among bikers and the police will do similar things.  He's actually saying that he can depend on the police turning on people to keep him in power.  

Since it's clear that the killer was, by his own admission, inspired by things he saw in the media, there is no rational case to make that the hate talk and paranoia and racism and fiction-based envy  that English speaking media is full of had nothing to do with what he did.  It doesn't matter how many dozens or hundreds of the imbibers of that hatred and paranoia and racism and fiction-based envy don't do what these people do,  it's clear as anything in real life ever is that despite what the ACLU and pseudo-liberalism claim that hate talk is dangerous and it kills people.    

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  1. You vile piece of shit. She tweeted "LOL" to highlight the ridiculousness that comes with placing any of the blame for this massacre on her. Beckett himself would have found it too absurd to write. You don't like her tone? Fuck you. I doubt she likes imbeciles desperate for attention trying to blame this on her. Find me one quote where she writes anything like, "Let's kill all the Muslims" and then you can talk.

    "It's never appropriate to LOL a mass shooting." She's not LOLing the shooting you illiterate ape, she's LOLing the idea that SHE had something to do with that maniac's actions. Which is batshit fucking bonkers.

    Imagine if the jackasses in the press were seriously considering what role Jodie Foster played in John Hinckley's attempt to murder Reagan. Yeah, just as dumb.

    "there is no rational case to make that the hate talk and paranoia and racism and fiction-based envy that English speaking media is full of had nothing to do with what he did."

    Funny how you weren't so damned outraged when that maniac shot up the Dallas Police Force, or that lunatic professor went around bashing people's heads in because Orange Man Bad. Or anything at all about Islam after the 2015 San Bernardino shooting (because you don't read too carefully - let me state without qualification that Islam had nothing to do with those two and their behavior. But it wasn't Trump's fault so you just blame guns. LOL at your obvious prejudices).

    It's almost as if you don't realize that angry, uninformed rhetoric is par for the course today from both sides. But, you only seem to care, or pretend to, when it fits your agenda.

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    1. As to the "when that maniac shot up the Dallas Police Force" shootings in the United States are so common, thanks to Republicans, the gun-industry-lobby, the fucking Founders and their 2nd Amendment and the Republican-fascists on the Supreme Court that I would, literally, have to write about nothing else if I took up that topic. I once tried a blog where I documented the murders of women for being women that happnen on an average of 3-4 per day (according to the FBI at that time) and found it was impossible. In that case the killer had been trained to kill by the U.S. military, starting when he was in Jr. ROTC and then in the Army. He left no manifesto.

      Which gets us to WHO IT IS who wrote that Candice Owen inspired him IT WAS THE MASS MURDERER WHO SAID IT. The biggest difference between Owen and Jody Foster is that Foster in real life (or in any role I can think of up till that time) didn't advocate the mental derangement that led to people getting killed in real life, that would be what your heroes specialize in. Trump threatening to unleash the tubs of lard on Harleys and the police and military on those who tried to get him removed from office not to mention his other armed followers proves that the New Zealand mass murderer was also right in citing him as a figure in the white supremacy cause.

      This isn't a both sides thing, asshole, MY SIDE WOULD DISARM THE MURDERERS, YOURS HAS ARMED THEM WITH MILITARY WEAPONRY, NO DOUBT FOR REASONS SUCH AS MADISON AND THE OTHER FOUNDERS WANTED TO ARM SLAVERS AND TRUMP BOASTED ABOUT THE ARMED THUGS WHO SUPPORT HIM. That's the difference when it comes to getting lots of people killed. There is no comparison in numbers as to who are the terror killers in the English speaking countries and elsewhere. The asshole ideological lefty killers are of the past and they were never anything to do with the left I inhabit. I've long held they were self-indulgent assholes who had more in common with fascists and Nazis AND I'VE REPEATEDLY WRITTEN ABOUT THAT, IN EXHAUSTIVE DETAIL HERE. I even came up with a different chart of identifying government that goes, there's egalitarian democracy at one end of a line and a series of gangster governments that go DOWN in an ever sinking spiral down to such entities as the Nazis and Stalin and Mao and Pol Pot and the Kim regime of North Korea, on that end you can find the kind of government that white supremacists aspire to because, under the cover, they're all the equivalent of Nazis.

      MAGA is inspearable from the Trump rhetoric that called on that group of organized criminal-bikers (in his mind I think he can't see that they're all a bunch of aging fat guys on 2 wheels pretending to be a young Marlon Brando) and the type who long for the military and police to stage a putsch to put a fascist lunatic like Trump in as dictator. Only I have more faith in the rationality and morality of most policemen and those in the military, they've got a definite problem of Nazification in both but I don't think it accounts for the number that Trump and his followers place their hopes in. The Covington brats are the slacker version of today's Hitler Youth, they are a shame of Catholic elite education, they are a symptom of everything that is wrong with the Catholic Church in the United States, the pedophile permitting rot among, especially, those put in the hierarchy by the two conservative, power-concentrating popes JPII and Benedict XVI.

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