Anthony_McCarthy Steve Lives Oh, what a brilliant argument. Did it take you a long time to think it up? Clearly it took most of your brain chemistry, that must have been all used up. I'm surprised you've got enough to breathe and swallow.Steve Lives Anthony_McCarthy You aren't very bright are you? What exactly am I supposed to be arguing based on your last post? I don't care about Harris or that other guy. I don't care about your religion. And you blathering on tossing insults everywhere isn't about to change my mind. And you're still an idiot.Anthony_McCarthy Steve Lives Oh, you won't have any choice in the end if those verses* are right, you'll be convinced despite what you believe now. It will be irresistible. In the mean time I'm just interested in trying to distance materialism from the left that it can only destroy.Steve Lives Anthony_McCarthy Ooooo. I'm so afraid. Your childish threat is hysterical. And if Muslims or Hindus or any of the thousands of religions are right, you will be wrong too. Or maybe Harry Potter is right, and a world of magic is just out of my sight. I'll just place my bet with reality thanks, not superstitious nonsense. I don't support materialism. I don't even support the concept of property. Or make believe world of monetary/market economics. So what does that make me? Surely you have a handy label for me.Anthony_McCarthy Steve Lives I'm always so amused at the trouble that atheists have with sophisticated things like, you know, the conditional mood. They're so Bright ®J. K. Rowling is a Presbyterian. You do know those books weren't written as religious scriptures, though she cleverly wove some into the stories.But if materialists are right then if there is something that is reality our minds, governed by some rather base chemistry, wouldn't be able to reach it. That's even true of atheist boys like yourself. You're just an atheist because your peculiar chemistry makes you one, atheism doesn't have any more of a special status than the chemistry that would make someone a Southern Baptist of the foot washing type. How's it feel to know your ideology carries its own refutation and atheists' brain chemistry makes them too dim to even realize that?Steve Lives Anthony_McCarthy Brain chemistry? So your brain chemistry makes you religious? So therefore god exists? Do you even read what you write? If religion is just a matter of brain chemistry, and you know that, I have to ask, wtf?Anthony_McCarthy Steve Lives Leave it to an Alternet atheist to not even know the first thing about the intellectual consequences of being a materialist as all atheists are reduced to being if they have even thought the first thing about the options available for being an atheist. No, make that option available.You meat head, it's atheists who widely claim that consciousness has to be the product of brain chemistry. If you weren't such an ignorant dolt you'd know that it's atheists in the pseudo-sciences who make that claim so they can try to make consciousness fit into their ideological framing. Only they have to exempt their thinking from their own, insisted on, framing or materialism can be no more true than religion, which they debunk on that basis, can be.Geesh, atheism isn't a manifestation if brilliance, it's a manifestation of superficiality. As Francis Bacon said, centuries ago,"It is true, that a little philosophy inclineth man's mind to atheism; but depth in philosophy bringeth men's minds about to religion. For while the mind of man looketh upon second causes scattered, it may sometimes rest in them, and go no further; but when it beholdeth the chain of them, confederate and linked together, it must needs fly to Providence and Deity."I know you won't be able to process something so complicated but I will tell you that its the same Francis Bacon that one of your meat headed Alternet atheist buddies, who had obviously never read him, claimed was an atheist here the other day. Atheism is the product of superficiality in thinking.- * We'd gotten into it about whether or not Christians all believed in eternal damnation elsewhere and I quoted a number of verses implying if not promoting universal salvation.
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