"It seems to me that to organize on the basis of feeding people or righting social injustice and all that is very valuable. But to rally people around the idea of modernism, modernity, or something is simply silly. I mean, I don't know what kind of a cause that is, to be up to date. I think it ultimately leads to fashion and snobbery and I'm against it." Jack Levine: January 3, 1915 – November 8, 2010 LEVEL BILLIONAIRES OUT OF EXISTENCE
Monday, August 14, 2017
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You just happened to not notice the excuse for the Nazi rally was the removal of a statue of Robert E. Lee who, excuse me if I recall it, is associated with violations of rights of Black Americans. I guess that doesn't signify with you, does it.
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As it is, I'm pretty much opposed to them for their entire range of bigotry, not just that which is focused on the minority group I'm a member of, you know, LGBT people. That's the difference between a narcissist like you and normal people. You've got a lot more in common with the Nazis than you'd ever like anyone to notice, but I have.
And I've read that they yelled YOU will not replace us.You don't care that they targeted lots of other groups just as the murders of other groups by the Nazis signifies nothing to you. Like I pointed out several years ago, with your classification according to value of entire groups of people, you've got a lot in common with the way Nazis think.
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I haven't bothered to check if someone else reported that because I've been backing up what I said. And no one with any interest in the truth would take your word for anything, not even "and" and "the". You are a pathological liar.Oh, you don't remember me pointing out that not only was Tacitus a viciou anti-Semite but that he was widely read in Germany and that the Nazis promoted, not only his anti-Semitic tract but, also, his laudatory essay on the Germanic tribes. That's not to mention the times I talked about the blood libel, the expulsion of the Jews from Iberia and England and many other times.
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You know, Simps, I don't know if you just don't bother reading things or if your senility has reached the point when you don't even remember the things you've made fun of to Duncan's dotty dullars, such as my pointing out the anti-Semitism of Tacitus. Though I'm quite prepared to figure it's just a mix of your TV induced stupidity with your pop-culture anti-intellectualism and your slacker laziness.
I'm told that lots of the real long time regulars at Eschaton have been ever rarer at Duncan's. Eventually anyone with a mind leaves there.Oh, yeah, and there was the time I took up your challenge and proved that that great hero of the atheist "enlightenment" Voltaire was a particularly vicious anti-Semite as well as other heroes of contemporary atheism.
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I know you have trouble with how that thing called "time" works but Voltaire lived and published his anti-Semitic crap before your St. Darwin was born.
Another of the great "enlightenment" heroes of atheists, David Hume wrote, in Of National Charcter, "Fourthly. Where any set of men, scattered over distant nations, maintain a close society or communication together, they acquire a similitude of manners, and have but little in common with the nations amongst whom they live. Thus the JEWS in EUROPE, and the ARMENIANS in the east, have a peculiar character; and the former are as much noted for fraud, as the latter for probity."
Now, aren't you glad you lied that lie, Simps?I was hoping you would take that bait. The Christians in Germany who derived their anti-Semitism from reading Tacitus may well have derived their anti-Semitism from him, as, in fact, the Nazis used his essay to that end.
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A Christian anti-Semite is certainly not being consistent with the Gospels. The parents of Jesus (all of the two genealogies in the Gospels) Jesus , the named followers of Jesus except for a Samaritan or Roman Centurion, here or there, the ones he chose as his inner circle during his lifetime, Paul, etc. were all Jews. The ultimate authority of Christianity was a Jew, who taught in synagogues, went to the Temple, said that he came to fulfill the Law, who cited the Prophets, etc. Christianity derives all of its claimed authority from Jews. Anti-Semitism is inconsistent with Christianity at it most definitional and foundational levels. I think it took about 1950 years to rid Catholicism of the hold overs of pagan European culture which is not inconsistent with anti-Semitism. As my comment shows, atheism and anti-Christianity certainly are compatible and I'd say congenial with anti-Semitism. Some of the most vicious anti-Semitism I've read has come from Jewish atheists and those who some of those have followed.
I'm still trying to square the Nazism of Richard Spencer with his mentee comrade in American Nazism, Stephen Miller, a grandson of Byelorussian Jews. I haven't gone looking for what Miller may have said about the Nazi rally in Charlottesville or what might have been said about him there or generally in the American Nazi right
You never answered my question. I'll ask it a different way. Will you join me in saying that Nazism should be banned in the United States, its propaganda suppressed, its websites blocked and taken down and its hate speech made prosecutable? Because I've been advocating that for a while now, my calls to make their hate speech actionable go back to one of the first blog posts I ever did. Put it on the line, Simps, go make that declaration among the phony-lefties of Eschaton. Get back to me on that.The French have a law against falsifying history, which I have advocated for at Eschaton since forever. But please, keep denying that European Christian anti-Semitism was the principle motivation for the Holocaust. And pretty please, keep lying about how I'm an atheist rather than a lapsed agnostic.
ReplyDeleteThat wasn't what I said, I challenged you on the point of banning the Nazis in the United States, banning their organizing, their propaganda, their terrorism and you obviously don't while I have for the past eleven years that I've written blog posts. You're a chickenshit pseudo-liberal coward.
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The Nazis were not Christians, I've demonstrated that over and over again in their own words. I'm not going to lie because you hate Christians and Christianity in your bubble-gum comic atheism and total stupidity. That lie has been pushed long enough, it's time that the Darwinian origins of their theory, what Rudolph Hess admitted was their conception of "applied biology" was admitted to.
Hitler and you have that in common too, he hated Christianity, not least of which because Jesus was a Jew who was born, who lived and who died as a Jew, as the Romans noted when they put the sign over him that said so
The Duncan Black bigots choir doesn't' know what they're talking about and they'll never learn. Last time I was there to check out what someone claimed, I noted that someone was wondering where one of the original, long time regulars went. My guess is she finally realized what a huge waste of time it is to talk with you bigots.You're a lying atheist so I know you're lying about that.
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"Jewsplaining". Geesh, Simps, what an incompetent attempt at creating a portmanteau after "mansplaining". I'd have to be Jewish to "Jewsplain" just as you've got to be a man to "mansplain".
I'd say you're stunningly stupid but, as you're the stunned one, it would be sort of the same mistake as you made.This from the asshat who told QL that HE was the real feminist.
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And as I've told you on innumerable occasions, I'm not an atheist. I could give a shit about atheists, and in particular the straw men pop atheists you're constantly gassing about, none of whose books I have ever read or intend to read.
Once again, shithead -- I'm a lapsed agnostic. I used to not know, but now I don't give a shit.
But please, keep lying. It's the Christian thing to do.You have my permission to tell QL that if she said that she's a lying scumbag. As I said and showed the last time you claimed that, I've been on record at Echines' blog, from one of the first posts I ever wrote for her where I said that men should not call themselves "feminists" because they aren't qualified to make that decision. Or maybe, as so often happens at Eschaton, it makes the regulars stupid. Maybe she caught the habit from you and Freki. I have never, in my life called myself a "feminist".
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I know for a fact that you lie about just about everything, so I'm going to stick with my conclusion about your atheism Though it doesn't surprise me that you're as much of a chickenshit coward about that, too.
You don't have anything to say about your lame-assed attempt to invent a portmanteau word?"a goyische asshole telling me, a Jew, what real Jews should think"
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The only thing I said was that the entire genealogy of Jesus as given in two Gospels, Jesus, all of his Apostles, Paul, almost all of the named followers of Jesus all lived and died as Jews. I'll bet you that Peter, James, etc. all would have said they were Jews. As someone who knows what they're talking about, unlike you who is a Know Nothing, Suannah Heschel, pointed out that Paul aid he was a Pharisee and he pretty much invented Christianity as a separate kind of Judaism.
The only thing I've ever told you to think was the truth and I gave that up a long time ago because you're allergic to the truth.
I have too much respect for Jews to consider your degenerate self as being representative. I've told you before that the only thing I consider you is a total asshole.Really, Simps, your claim that I'm an anti-Semite is one of your longer standing lies that anyone who bothers to read what I write would know is a lie - which doesn't include the non-literate liars at Duncan's blog. If Duncan has read what I write - and I believe he might look at it from time to time - he knows that is a lie though it obviously doesn't bother him to sponsor its propagation in the teacup he runs for what profit it brings him.
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I wonder, I'll bet I give positive mention and positive citations to more Jews on my blog than you do on yours. Not to mention I consider the Jewish prophets to be authoritative in as close to an ultimate way as any human beings. I certainly don't consider any Irish Catholic as having that moral authority, it is one of the most interesting things about Christianity, that its as-close-to-ultimate authorities are all Jewish. It's been when they've forgotten that that they've gone really astray, substituting Augustine or Luther or Knox and they all, ultimately, had to try to square what they wanted to do with those same scriptures. I've said here that I'd rather live under the teachings of a Jew than the United States Constitution and legal code, how much more positive can it get.
And that's not to mention the many, many Jewish scholars and journalists and writers and composers I cite and post positively.
As I said, I don't think of you as Jewish, I think of you the way, no doubt, many Jews who know you do, you're an asshole, like Norman Podhoretz, Midge Decter, Shulamit Reinharz, Alan Dershowitz,... Really, every ethnicity has assholes like you I could give you a list of Irish ones, beginning with every Republican with an Irish name in the Congress and elsewhere. Boston politics used to be full of them, lots of the incumbent members of the US Catholic Conference of Bishops, though Pope Francis gets to name new ones who are less likely to be one of your fellow a-holes.
Your claim was that the Nazis in Charlottesville weren't inspired by Charles Darwin, I proved that they claim their inspiration is from Charles Darwin, just as the Nazism of Germany was based on Darwinism, which I've also proved.
I know you really don't quite get how that time thing works but, you know what, Simps, there were no Nazis before Charles Darwin published his first book, either.
All that is necessary to prove my point is to cite today's Nazis as claiming their inspiration is in Charles Darwin and natural selection, his invention, and they do that.
You also don't get how logic and reason work, either, preferring to just spout the post-war, St. Darwin mythology you imbibed as a "C" student if that. Before the war no one made believe Darwinism was unrelated to eugenics, his own son, Leonard Darwin cited his father's influence as "turning things in Germany in the right direction" after whining about how before the Nazis, Germans were too "conservative" to accept eugenics.
Now, go tell your fellow ignorami what I said, only you never do, you make up something I'm supposed to have said. Go tell your buddy, Derbes to come here and read what I wrote on the topic, I don't think he's stupid enough to not understand I proved my case but he's too chicken to admit that.