NO, I'D BE A TERRIBLE novelist. When I do my therapeutic writing I make up minor characters who are problems for the major ones, then start to give them a back story and they start filling out too much. And the more backstory they get the more sympathetic I get to them. I heard one fine novelist say she couldn't write a character she didn't like. She's a genius, with me, it'd be worse than a Hallmark movie and I won't inflict it on readers. That's what TV's for. My writing is 100% for my own use and entertainment.
There is one evil character I haven't done that to, I figure I need to try to make up real villains to understand that part of things, real evil. His name is Steve at times and Roger other times. For entirely personal reasons.
I remember reading a newspaper story about that specifically Women invented, exclusively women practiced Chinese script that they were worried was going to die out. They bemoaned the ancient practice of their manuscripts being burned when they died so they would go into the afterlife with them, as if that were some huge tragedy. Perhaps some of it was a real loss but I think the world would have been better off if a lot of what survived in print hadn't.
Which reminds me of this, which I'll post because I know it will offend the tender sensibilities of one of those who trolls me:
The Library of America’s new Hammett collection, “Crime Stories and Other Writings,” contains a poignant textual note explaining that one of the stories could not be taken from Hammett’s original version because no copies of the magazine it appeared in still exist. Few are likely to mourn the January, 1928, issue of Mystery Stories, one of about seventy “pulps” then on the market—“pulp” as a category denoted the low quality of the paper, and presumably also of the contents and the readership—but the contrast of this rough extinction with the smooth, acid-free immortality of the volume at hand does point up the cultural irony of Hammett’s career. (His first pulp story, actually called “Immortality,” has disappeared without a trace.) But the contrast also points up the irony of the sweeping cultural mandate of the Library of America, for, as it turns out, the salvaged story—“This King Business,” printed from a later version—is hardly worth the effort of reading once.
And it is far from the only disappointment here. Hammett produced about ninety stories (and five novels) in the dozen active years of his career, many of them for badly needed money—he was capable of knocking out five thousand words a day—and many clearly executed beneath the level of his engaged attention.
Tough Guy: The mystery of Dashiell Hammett. Claudia Roth Pierpont February 3, 2002
I try not to churn it out and I try to test my own boundaries. No one's offering a financial incentive to do so, I hope I wouldn't impose that on the world. That's important, trying to write what you don't feel comfortable with. That's how I start feeling sympathy for the characters I started out not liking. As the same author mentioned above said when discussing the notable unlovability of real People, "Maybe God understands us better than we understand ourselves."
"It seems to me that to organize on the basis of feeding people or righting social injustice and all that is very valuable. But to rally people around the idea of modernism, modernity, or something is simply silly. I mean, I don't know what kind of a cause that is, to be up to date. I think it ultimately leads to fashion and snobbery and I'm against it." Jack Levine: January 3, 1915 – November 8, 2010 LEVEL BILLIONAIRES OUT OF EXISTENCE
Oh right, Sparkles -- THE THIN MAN and THE MALTESE FALCON, two horrible novels that nobody reads anymore. :-) I'll give you a hint, Schmucko -- you're not fooling anybody. The reason you dislike Hammett isn't the quality of his writing, which at its best is out of this world -- it's his politics and Lillian Hellman.
ReplyDeleteLike you've ever read either of them, the Maltese Falcon was the best thing he wrote that, unlike you, I've read and, let's just say it wasn't Ross MacDonald. The Thin Man was the beginning of his end, like the passage quoted pointed out, his productive period of about 12 years came to an end largely because he lived an even more extreme drunk than the one he wrote in that junk.
ReplyDelete"His politics and Lillian Hellman" well, as he went from a for-pay violent union busting thug to following that poison adder into Stalinism as he was murdering millions, including during the period when he was launching a pogrom against Jews, yeah, Simps, what's not to admire about that and her. She was as dishonest as today's pseudo-lefty, Green-Noam Chomsky style Putin pushers. Everything including "and" and "the". If you had read the article, it was pretty clear that Hammett drank himself into being her bottom. The article was right, most of what Hammett wrote was absolute, low-level, commercial shit.
I've never read FALCON OR THE MAN? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahaha
ReplyDeleteNo, seriously, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh, by the way, THE CONTINENTAL OP stories and THE DAIN CURSE aren't too shoddy either.
Have you always had the habit of laughing hysterically when you ask yourself a question? I haven't read The Dain Curse so I have no opinion of it, unlike you I won't pretend I've read what I haven't. The Op stories are certainly base, shoddiness isn't the only measure of low quality.
DeleteOH, pretty much all the brilliant science fiction in the first six decades of the 20th century originally appeared in pulp magazines. The idea that there's some kind of stigma about the fact that all those great writers were first published in Amazing Stories or the Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction is hilariously ignorant on your part.
DeleteWe were discussing Hammett, he didn't write sci-fi, good or bad. I know you think in the crudest of categories instead of reality but that doesn't mean I'm obliged to follow you down the booby hatch.
Delete"Have you always had the habit of laughing hysterically when you ask yourself a question?" More pertinently, have you always have the habit of not knowing when I'm specifically laughing at you?
ReplyDeleteWhen I hear it from you it always sounds like a silly little girl laugh. Or a babbling idiot, sometimes one, sometimes the other.
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